Custom Video Resolutions

[dewman]

I am wanting to use some custom video resolutions. Weird video resolutions. As an example, something like 5760x1080. Or you use your own resolution. Why? I want to do something like a video wall. Create a video that is essentially one weird resolution to show on multiple screens either side by side or one on top of the other or some combination of the two, L shaped or V shaped or whatever. For simplicity sake, we'll make it three 1920x1080 monitors side by side. A straight line. But VideoSudioPro 2018 (or previous versions) won't let me make a custom resolution.

I tried to go into Project Properties and clicking on new. A dialogue box appears. Under the General tab, there is a grayed out option to make a user defined resolution. No matter what I do, it remains grayed out. I've tried it starting out with all available project format propertied, but it still remains grayed out.

I have even tried to make a file in PaintShopPro of some goofy resolution and import it hoping that VSP will ask me if I want to use the imported item as the default resolution. But it didn't work.

I don't care what format I need to work within to do the project (AVC/H.264, MPEG4, MPEG2, AVI, MOV. I'll work within any format to make the video (I can convert it to another format using Handbrake or something later if necessary). Attached is a JPG showing the grayed out user defined frame size.

Thanks.

[aljimenez]

Click the Custom option in Share Tab. Then either avi or mov give you option to change resolution.

Beware that the rendered file may be poor if the source video clips are significantly different than the rendered video.

[asik1]

It can be done, but you might get struck by the codec inner limitation
I did in VS7 a short 3840X1080 demo once.
I can't recall what format I output it (but surly not QT) and I don't have it now.

[dewman]

OK, I see that as an output option. But how do I work within that resolution? How do I go about editing so that what I output will fall within the resolution I am targeting? Using the 3 monitors example, each having 1920 x 1080 resolution. How would I know where to place something in the working window so that it appears where I would want it to on one of the monitor? I wouldn't want a still picture to end up strung across 2 monitors so that the edges of the monitor breaks the picture up (I may want this as an effect sometimes, but I fore see a still as pretty much being displayed in one monitor. Source video and pictures would likely not be an issue for what I am presently thinking as I would likely box each video (and still for that matter) as I move it around the screen(s).

Maybe I am confusing what I am stating, Let me retry so that hopefully either the first attempt or this one will describe better how I need to work within VSP to accomplish the weird output resolution.

If I can't set the project resolution to be the same resolution as my intended output resolution, how do I know when I am exceeding the limits/boundaries of my output resolution while I am editing the project? How will I know when I have reached the top portion of my frame (resolution) so that I don't go out of bounds? In my example, how do I know when I have reached 1080 pixels tall if I can't set my project resolution (frame size) to my intended output frame size?

BTW,. I did try to make a profile using the output (I think it was a MOV file) and then tried to use that profile when I created/modified the project. VSP wouldn't let me.

It very could just be that VSP can not do what I am trying/hoping to do. I may have to fall back to another that will let me make the custom resolution (though I don't know if it will let me work within that resolution or if it will let me out put in that resolution)(VegasPro) but I was hoping to use the tools that I have with and within VSP.

Maybe I don't fully understand video walls or maybe their limitation (without using a multi-million dollar (euro or whatever currency you want to use)( wall array and software). But I'd like stuff to float between the monitors at different times throughout the video. I could make 3 different videos but I think editing it as three separate videos would be really hard to get it all lined up and synced in the editing process, and then there would be the problem of playing in sync (and looping) the three videos to three separate monitors.

I was hoping to have just one weird resolutioned video and then use the three (or however many) monitors as extended on the computer so that each has it's own display. Then using VLC (which I know can play videos across spanned monitors) would run the video looping.

Thanks for continuing to work through this with me on this and to think about it.

[asik1]

Dewman, the current Xvid will do up to ~4096X4096, so no 5760 for you.
I also tried a version of H264 mp4 and was strucked by that size. so you need to wait for any advances to 8K..
On unrestricted H264 I can go wide and high but currently not on the VS's h264 version which is restricted up to level 5.1 only.

[dewman]

OK. So say that I was to use 4096 for the width, how to I make a height for something like 900 pixels? Another words, 4096 x 900. Any ideas?

[aljimenez]

Just edit your project with your source video resolutions. Then Share/Render them with your custom resolution. Each frame will be adapted to the output resolution. The quality will depend on how different the output resolution is to your source videos. This is not cropping, for example that will chop off the original video frames.

[asik1]

OK. So say that I was to use 4096 for the width, how to I make a height for something like 900 pixels? Another words, 4096 x 900. Any ideas?

[sclgwhite2]

dewman: I suppose it is too late to "warn you," but AVI produces an enormous file, so be sure you have plenty of operating/receiving space before you begin processing. Today I created a 1424 x 1080 video that was 3 minutes 3 seconds long, and it produced a 38.2 GB file. Step 2 for me is running these huge files through Aimersoft Video Converter Ultimate using the same specs, which in this case resulted in a 131 MB .mp4 H.264 file.

Some historical context: There was a time when VS would make custom sizes. I don't suppose I'll ever forget the frustrating experience of talking on the phone with a customer service operator about losing that precious ability. It was my "privilege" to introduce her to the cold, hard fact that AVI was the only option left, which she begrudgingly admitted after trying it for herself. That's when research led me to AVCU (referenced above), which may have been the best $39.95 I ever spent, for a lifetime upgrading purchase. It has gone up some since.

[Ken Berry]

AVI produces an enormous file, so be sure you have plenty of operating/receiving space before you begin processing.

I think you must be talking about uncompressed AVI. In reality, avi is what is called a "wrapper" format, and can enclose large files (uncompressed; DV/AVI) down to highly compressed mp4 type files (such as XVid). But they all call themselves .avi! Depends which option and codec you choose to produce a specific avi.

[sclgwhite2]

Yes, Ken, I was writing about uncompressed .AVI. I know that current VS offers "User-defined" sizing with "MJPEG compressor," Microsoft RLE," and "Microsoft Video 1," but back when Corel took away custom sizing of .WMV (which is what I was using at the time) I tried all three of those and rejected them. Don't ask me why - I barely can remember what I had for breakfast. BTW, do you remember when Ulead preferred processing .AVI, and many solutions from customer service were recommendations to use it? Again, that memory is about as clear as my birth. Just now, I checked .WMV options and found that the story has not changed: select WMV and the "Create custom profile" (the +) or select "Custom" and "WMV" and "Options" (the gear) and you are offered a lot of factory profiles, but no (as in NO) custom profile creation. Ah, the good ole days. But Freeze Frame makes up for a lot of shortcomings in my judgment. You might remember I could not get it to work in "2018" but it magically started working - don't know why, but I accept the gift. YAY!

[asik1]

sclgwhite2, one can create any WMV profile by installing the WMV Windows Media Encoder with profiles editor . I do only WMV's for my clients.
OR... one can install XVID and have better encoder for AVI than the ones you listed.

[Ken Berry]

It's the Windows Media Encoder 9 series which you can find at https://www.videohelp.com/software/Wind ... ia-Encoder It's old but still effective -- unless asik has a more recent version, though I believe Microsoft have dropped further development of the series.

[asik1]

http://technoresult.com/how-to-install- ... indows-10/

[lata]

Hi

I ran a quick test using AVI with Microsoft 1 codec, effectively DV-Avi, I can set the project properties to panorama sizes (4096 x 767) and render to same.
The 4096 x 767 allows me to add 3 16:9 videos side by side.