Title safe area in Studio 2008
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Title safe area in Studio 2008
Before I update my version with SP2 that title safe area was displayed on the preview panel. After SP2 that safe area disappears. I check the parameters they are OK. May I reload 2008 without the sp2 upgrade??
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Re: Title safe area in Studio 2008
Not actually noticed that, but according to the SP2 fixes list, it has Removed the Title Safe Frame from the preview window which begs the question, why does Settings/Preferences still have the option to set the title safe area
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Re: Title safe area in Studio 2008
I did not know they had remove the safe area. Then how do we know we exceed the safe area? I will look for an answer. Thanks for your info
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Re: Title safe area in Studio 2008
Robert,
I agree. Title safe area was always something I was careful about when creating video's. Advertised in the dim past as a means of ensuring display no matter what screen device was in use, the user guides for prior versions, and 2018, all discuss using it: "to avoid titles being cut off at the edges" is the phraseology used, but it means the same thing.
So, I think a better question would be "why remove it?" Since you seem to have a hot line to the developers, may be you could find out?
I agree. Title safe area was always something I was careful about when creating video's. Advertised in the dim past as a means of ensuring display no matter what screen device was in use, the user guides for prior versions, and 2018, all discuss using it: "to avoid titles being cut off at the edges" is the phraseology used, but it means the same thing.
So, I think a better question would be "why remove it?" Since you seem to have a hot line to the developers, may be you could find out?
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Re: Title safe area in Studio 2008
I've just sent off a message to two members of the VS development team, and will report back when I get a response.
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Re: Title safe area in Studio 2008
Title safe area has no use or meaning any more - it was needed back in the days of CRT tubes with their curved fronts and masking at a manufacturers whim - but the introduction of flat screen TV's mean that the whole screen is visible
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Re: Title safe area in Studio 2008
Well I used the safe area line to ensure that captions were placed in a uniform place on images. Is there another way to easily achieve this uniform placement?BrianCee wrote:Title safe area has no use or meaning any more
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Re: Title safe area in Studio 2008
@tletter: You can still use the grid lines to help aline your captions.
What does concern me though is that I'd sort of not realised that the title safe area lines had gone. There are some TV broadcasters who have specific restrictions on titles, etc., and removing this could hamper someone who is producing something for possible later broadcast.
What does concern me though is that I'd sort of not realised that the title safe area lines had gone. There are some TV broadcasters who have specific restrictions on titles, etc., and removing this could hamper someone who is producing something for possible later broadcast.
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Re: Title safe area in Studio 2008
This is the last straw.... I'm switching to Adobe Premier for my next project. Corel has made VS UNUSABLE.
My playback is poor, laggy, jumpy and generally a pain. Add effects, titles, transitions and specifically NewBlue effects (that they so graciously give you for free with ultimate) and you have a high chance of a fatal crash to desktop. If no CTD, then the playback stutters and skip up to 10 FRAMES AT A TIME!!!!!
Render times are aweful, render options are stil based (for mpg, avi and mp4 at least) on a 15 year old Ulead plugin. IN fact the entire program is a re-hash of the original Ulead Video Studio which was crap to begn with.. I hung on hoping they would switch to the Ulead Media Studio 8 engine one day. Even downloaded Pinnacle hoping that they used it there. Its even worse crashwise.
All in all corel has served me with mediocre results, their techs are completely useless and prefer to blame installation (yes i did do a damn clean install.. twice) or other issues.
I used to hate Premier until today i decided to try it out... It runs like a DREAM. Playback is full resolution, every frame is there and i can add effects and text without a millisecond of lag. Even rendered a full HD conference i did in less time than VS. Hence this rant... realising the amount of time VS wasted. AGGGGGGGGGHHHH Also, it's obvioulsy not my PC since Premier ran like a Ferrari against a stationwagon...
Then they take away my safe-area margins. And here i am in a country like South Africa where most people that watch the channel i produce for have tube TVs...
And guess what? Adobe Premier STILL HAS SAFE AREAS - which makes the argument that they are redundant, redundant.
My playback is poor, laggy, jumpy and generally a pain. Add effects, titles, transitions and specifically NewBlue effects (that they so graciously give you for free with ultimate) and you have a high chance of a fatal crash to desktop. If no CTD, then the playback stutters and skip up to 10 FRAMES AT A TIME!!!!!
Render times are aweful, render options are stil based (for mpg, avi and mp4 at least) on a 15 year old Ulead plugin. IN fact the entire program is a re-hash of the original Ulead Video Studio which was crap to begn with.. I hung on hoping they would switch to the Ulead Media Studio 8 engine one day. Even downloaded Pinnacle hoping that they used it there. Its even worse crashwise.
All in all corel has served me with mediocre results, their techs are completely useless and prefer to blame installation (yes i did do a damn clean install.. twice) or other issues.
I used to hate Premier until today i decided to try it out... It runs like a DREAM. Playback is full resolution, every frame is there and i can add effects and text without a millisecond of lag. Even rendered a full HD conference i did in less time than VS. Hence this rant... realising the amount of time VS wasted. AGGGGGGGGGHHHH Also, it's obvioulsy not my PC since Premier ran like a Ferrari against a stationwagon...
Then they take away my safe-area margins. And here i am in a country like South Africa where most people that watch the channel i produce for have tube TVs...
And guess what? Adobe Premier STILL HAS SAFE AREAS - which makes the argument that they are redundant, redundant.
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Re: Title safe area in Studio 2008
I bet you will find some features you love missing in Premier. All Video Editors are priced differently, have somewhat irritating things missing or awkward. I don't think there is anything perfect. To me the Safe Area missing is sad since it seems like it would be so easy to provide; they actually did work to remove it which is so silly. Sorry it seems the final straw that made you leave.
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Re: Title safe area in Studio 2008
I agree with Al, Goshawk, are you talking about Premiere Pro or Premiere Elements I have Elements 2018 installed and VS is far superior in Plugins that come as standard, I can live without the safe area, got a very good idea where to place text to ensure CRT compatibility
Do agree however that some New Blue filters cause some issues, this is not necessarily the fault of Corel, I have been in touch with New Blue for some years now trying to resolve the slow rendering of some filters, but they do not appear to be interested in working with Corel to correct the problem, obviously a coding issue, but can't say that I have had VS crash whilst rendering New Blue filters, can be very very slow, but no crashes, so which filters are you having issues with maybe we can do a comparison test.
Generally, I have found that rendering times for the two programs are about equal, VS has been improving for a few versions now and this has been the same on both my computers.
Anyway, good luck and goodbye hope you find Premiere fulfills your needs, for me VS is still my preferred NLE and I also have Magix, Adobe, Camtasia and CyberLink
By the way, You do not get the New Blue edit screen when using Premiere Elements, it has its own edit screen which is nowhere near as comprehensive as that included with VS
Do agree however that some New Blue filters cause some issues, this is not necessarily the fault of Corel, I have been in touch with New Blue for some years now trying to resolve the slow rendering of some filters, but they do not appear to be interested in working with Corel to correct the problem, obviously a coding issue, but can't say that I have had VS crash whilst rendering New Blue filters, can be very very slow, but no crashes, so which filters are you having issues with maybe we can do a comparison test.
Generally, I have found that rendering times for the two programs are about equal, VS has been improving for a few versions now and this has been the same on both my computers.
Anyway, good luck and goodbye hope you find Premiere fulfills your needs, for me VS is still my preferred NLE and I also have Magix, Adobe, Camtasia and CyberLink
By the way, You do not get the New Blue edit screen when using Premiere Elements, it has its own edit screen which is nowhere near as comprehensive as that included with VS
