Big problem with VS 2018

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Big problem with VS 2018

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I bought I started to test VS 2018 Ultimate on Windows 10 Pro. Windows 10 and VS2018 newly installed.
I can not save the AVC / H.264 file.
When the project (slideshow) is small (20 photos), only transitions between photos (no music, descriptions or titles) - OK working and saves the file.
When the project is big (2000 photos), the program closes when 0% appears in the progress bar.

Maybe I do not have something installed that is required by VS2018?
or something should be set.
Unfortunately, there are no installation instructions
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Re: Big problem with VS 2018

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Are you sure? 2000 photos?
How long is this monster project?
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Re: Big problem with VS 2018

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This is a test. I did not pay attention to quality. Pictures loaded from several folders and transitions included automatically. The whole process 5 min
Project time less than 2 hours.
I've already done such projects, holiday photos. But more effort with titles, music, etc.
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Re: Big problem with VS 2018

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You might be exceeding VS capabilities with such large project; I have not heard of anyone doing such a large project. Who is going to watch a two hours slide show?

But, we want to try to help you and perhaps the issue is not VS but your pc. You have not given detailed specs of your pc, like main memory, hard disk speed, processor speed, etc. Also, resolution of the media. Perhaps we can offer more suggestions to get you going.
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Re: Big problem with VS 2018

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As I wrote, I've been doing such projects.
When a project made in X8 did not save the movie by editing the program.
I assumed that VS2018 did not properly load projects from X8 and that's why I tested a new project of similar size.

In fact, the only difference is Windows 10 previously Windows 7

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OK, your pc seems capable. I can only suggest trying 100 photos and see if that works, then try 500, 1000, etc, and see if that tells you when it starts to fail. If it fails at 100, then there is a problem with the installed VS.
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I would never even consider a project with 2000 photos. It is much more efficient to break down such a project into a number of smaller projects which are much easier to edit, etc. The smaller project can then be merged into your final video.

Why would you even want to create a 2 hour slideshow?
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Just rendered a test project to MP4, 1 hr 7 min long, 2013 images (slides), 3 sec. each with crossfade transition and title animation for information.

No issues other than edit limits of number of images that can be added to the timeline at one time.
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That's good to know, but will you give more details on "limits of number of images that can be added to the timeline at one time". First, what is the limit number, and what happens if it is exceeded?
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aljimenez wrote:That's good to know, but will you give more details on "limits of number of images that can be added to the timeline at one time". First, what is the limit number, and what happens if it is exceeded?
Not a "hard" number, more of a range. I select a large group of images in the resource pane and drag to the timeline. When the limit is exceeded nothing happens. Reduce the number of selections and VS works as expected.

It does seem that as more images are added to the timeline the fewer images at one time can be added next. Might be related to a buffer of some kind or the the database having limits. Or it might be related to the sum of the file sizes selected...who knows but I'm not going to spend the time and effort to find out.

Oh, numbers - most I did at once was about 100, maybe 125. At times I couldn't do more than about 40.
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Re: Big problem with VS 2018

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I found what causes VS2018 to close

Image

if "Enable Hardware Encoder acceleration " is on , a large project closes the program (small works)
if "Enable Hardware Encoder acceleration " is off large and small project works

But .....
File Creation execution time when on 16 min when off 24 min in my small project.
Definitely better when acceleration is on. But what to do to make it work on large projects I do not know

I have not checked yet when the "big project" begins
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Re: Big problem with VS 2018

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Aha
This applies if an ACV / H.262 file or Blu-ray Disc is created.
With MPEG-4 it's OK
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Often when I have a large slideshow project with vidéo too. I split it in 2 or 3 mp4 separately registered that I put in a new project and never had problem . It could help ??
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Re: Big problem with VS 2018

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sylwester wrote:Aha
This applies if an ACV / H.262 file or Blu-ray Disc is created.
With MPEG-4 it's OK
Good catch!
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Re: Big problem with VS 2018

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Unfortunately, AFAIK Corel doesn't define what is meant by "hardware acceleration" but usually it would mean a physical mechanism exists at the chip level that can be invoked by software eg a driver of some sort to speed things up. An external graphics card with specific features may be an example.

What the features needed are, I don't know.

However from the spec details provided, on your PC hardware acceleration ON is using memory that's not available for anything else, whereas when it's OFF, the memory is available for application use.
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