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I've tried to pick things apart, but I just seem to be unable to find where to change things so that the numbers won't be included when I render a video with split screens.

Is this intended or am I missing something?

This image below is a sample frame from a short video I'm editing together. As you can see the numbers for each segment are present. I've used one of the templates (IP-01) for this project, but I've had the same results with my own customised templates.
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The sample frame is missing, but I am guessing the numbers are in the templates and they are photos meant to be replaced with your own media.
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I think you're right, Al -- though I haven't yet gotten things to work smoothly. But at least so far, when I drag and drop an image on one overlay track, then distort it to fit in one of the divisions on screen, the number does not show. And so on with the other divisions.

If you right click an overlay track and open FastFlick Designer, you get some options. I tried to open the "Learn More" button on the designer but got the curious message that it could not open as VS X9 was not on my computer. I was using VS 2018 on a new computer which only has 2018 and X10, but not X9. I will need to go to another computer where X9 is installed to be able to "learn more" about this feature! :roll:
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The image which I thought I'd attached isn't shown above. I did replace the respective images with my own images and videos. As the pieces weren't exactly 10 seconds long I copied the attributes from the template and pasted them onto the clips.
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Hopefully, I've been successful in attaching an image this time. It's slightly reduced from the original, but that's all.
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When you replaced the placeholders with your own images and clips, did you just drag and drop your image or clip, or did you right click the overlay track and choose "Replace clip" and then get the drop-down asking whether you want a Photo or Video? If I do it that way, the new photo or video is automatically fitted into the space and the number has gone. I then have to fiddle around a lot to get the distortion of the clip or photo under control, and add transitions to get the effect I am after e.g. crossfade at beginning of overlay track 1 to fade in the image of sector 1 and perhaps a fade to black at the end of that overlay. Then crossfade at the beginning of the other overlays and fades to black at their ends. And of course move the overlay tracks if I want to progress from one sector to the next...

But the numbers are definitely gone... (I used a different IP to you but the procedure is still the same...)
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Having now read the Help file, I found that to replace the existing numbered placeholders, you can also begin dragging the image or clip, then hold down the Ctrl key until you drop the image/clip into the relevant overlay track. Then release Ctrl. Just tried it and it works fine. And no number again! :lol:
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*mumbling swear words* It looks like that method works.

Ok, I'll have to re-edit it all to get rid of those numbers. Normally when I've dragged something like that it hasn't always liked it as the lengths aren't right. What is happening instead is that they are being trimmed to 10 seconds each. As I'm running multiple clips and cutting from one to another, that means that each will take different times and a bit more too.

More work tomorrow :)

Thank you Ken for the help here :)
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The split templates default to 10 seconds but can be changed to any length - drag the SplitLines for the lines of the template, then each PlaceHolders. You can select a PlaceHolder, copy it and paste it to the same track, then add videos/images to each and add transitions if you desire.

Note that transitions in multiple segments may not act as expected - I should enter as a bug.
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Thank you gewb. I was aware that the lengths can be changed, but this wouldn't have helped me in this specific project.

What I was looking to do, and have now achieved, was to run multiple clips at the same time, changing them in each part of the timeline as they came to their end to another. There's a randomness to what is in much of them and their respective lengths vary.

The image below shows what it looks like now:
ScreenDump MultiScreen #01 950.jpg
I've been successful this morning in getting rid of the numbers too, thanks to Ken's advice. Rather than go back to basics, I cheated and it worked!

I've changed the speeds of various clips and not all are running at the same speed. Also, one clip was recorded on a mobile that was held in portrait mode, so I've had to accommodate this too. I really wasn't looking forward to re-cutting the clips, so this is what I've done:
  1. Created a new folder
  2. Copied all the clips (in order) into the folder from the timeline
  3. Copied each individual clip over the top of where it was originally, pressing <Ctrl> as I dragged it from the new library folder
All the numbers have vanished :), as seen in the image above.

Thank you everyone!!
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Thank you again for the support.

After another busy day and a little bit more recording whilst the work was completed earlier today, I'm back home and have finished editing together the video. I've also added what I hope is a suitable backing track.

The video is a little bit of fun. I've used several time-lapse pieces and run them at different speeds in some cases. There are a few stills as well. I'm sure any regular user of VS will spot a few of the library pieces I've used as well ;).

Clubhouse Renovation: https://youtu.be/vCS41bUt7_w

For the backing track, there is a video of the group playing it here: https://youtu.be/rpisAF6UOJU . It isn't quite the same as what I've used as both are live recordings. I've also cut it together to fit the video.

I used the download from Free Music Archive: http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Monta ... g_Sun_live
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Well that's a busy little piece of work! But quite clever... Loved the juxtaposition of the aqua club and ladies toilet signs! No numbers in the segments -- hurrah!! Plus some excellent audio editing. 8) :mrgreen:
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I like it a lot for documenting a renovation and other events. Imagine how unnecessarily long a linear version of what you showed would be. Perfect!

Great tool for compressing different views of some complex events.
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Thank you both.

pmsl - The instructions to get to the club include a comment about the ladies toilet sign too :D. The gents are at the next entrance, which apparently is too far for a lot of guys visiting the room next door to the club. Is it wrong for me to comment on how bad the paintball group must be at hitting one another when the ladies floor is all wet when they are around? :D :D :D Sorry if that's a low blow ;), but there really is no excuse.

Editing the audio is one thing I love about VS. Looking at the sound waves and cutting at just the right point is so much easier than some editors I've seen. I've then overlaid the segments a little to blend them together. If you're interested there are 2 points where I've cut the music in this video. I know where they are so it's easy for me to find them, but you might pick them out as the tempo changes enough to notice.

I know good editing will normally use short 3-9 second pieces. As you quite rightly pointed out, you couldn't convey what I was looking to do is a normal linear video and keep it short. At 1.37 mins this is a nice short video. You can certainly see that a lot of work has been carried out, although the progression isn't that clear due to the number of windows and varying lengths of content.

Hopefully, the audience retention figures will hold out. On one of my videos, they look like a steep ski slope. I'm not worried though at the topic is aimed more at a small target audience and my editing skills weren't up to much back then. Still, it's had well over 40K views to date! With over 10% of viewers watching all the way through, I'm still amazed. The object of it was to document an event and also to play with a new external mic and ensure that I could mount my camera level. Both successfully achieved :).

There are other options within VS to show multiple images at the same time and I've used them previously. I was looking to do something a little different with this video from the available material. I am hoping that I have achieved this in a good way.

Nowadays I normally refrain from using the library videos where possible. Instead, I pinch ideas from them and create something a little more original where possible. So yes I have pinched a piece directly from the library in this video. I think it has worked well and fits the topic. I did change the style of text though.
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Thanks for the details. We're looking into this here (Scubbie's original post issue), see how this workflow can be simplified / improved.
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No problem @glus.

I added a few more clips on Monday that I had recorded earlier that day. I was able to successfully copy the attributes from an existing clip in the timeline and paste without the numbers appearing.

I needed to get them to fit the timeline first and I was prepared to repeat the above solution if required, to remove the numbers.
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