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Re: Resizing script

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LeviFiction wrote:EDIT: Well that's that then, if they are encrypting it they don't want it to be used outside the program and I don't actually advise trying to steal their property.

As for rotating, it is more of a process in PSP as you first have to accept the frame, then manually rotate an move the image with the pick tool underneath the frame layer.
If the paid frames are encrypted then, as @leahcimi said, they can't be accessed anyway even if you have paid and can activate them for AKVIS. I guess it's only the one free pack that's not encrypted.

On a different note, the free frames pack I downloaded from their site only contained 30 frames, not the 48 it was supposed to have. So I contacted them and they said perhaps it was corrupted so they sent me a zip file of the free pack and it does contain the promised 48 frames. Can't fault them for customer service. :-)
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leahcimi wrote:I guess so but you can resize & rotate images within a frame in Akvis Frames itself.
Yes, you can do that with the bounding box you get when clicking on the frame. All in all, I have found this to be an interesting exercise, both learning about how to use the mask and data images as well as recording a script to automate the process, even if there are only a minority of frames that are conducive to working well with most images as PSP frames. Any learning experience is worthwhile. :-)
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Further to my last post, I now believe there are still advantages to using the frames in PSP rather than AKVIS.

Because you get the frame as a layer above your image, you can - as necessary - move, resize, etc., and then use PSP's tools to sharpen and/or clarify the resize (because resize generally causes loss of sharpness), and do any other manipulations you wish to do to the original under the frame. With multiple frames within one frame, you can put whatever you want beneath each of those inner frames and also resize, etc, those images. You can actually resize the frame itself if it suits for a particular image or set of images within (underneath) the one frame.

So, IMHO anyway, the versatility and tools/effects/adjustment options available after a frame is applied when it's a separate layer from the image(s) being framed are definitely a plus. And all of those options certainly make almost all of those free frames useable for some situations within PSP. The main problem with PSP's native frames is that there don't seem to be any that have multiple (i.e., collage-type) frames within the main frame. :-(
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Following your comment, Joe about having only 30 frames in his Free Pack instead of 48, I checked mine. Only 30! I contacted Akvis, who were very helpful and sent me a link to another copy which was fine.
As you know you can use Akvis Frames without an image and save just the frame as a PNG but the image area will be filled with white so, even if you erase the white in PSP, you won't get any semi-transparent areas. I tired an experiment of creating a 'blank' PNG in PSP (new image with no fill or background) to use with Akvis Frames. Sadly it filled the blank areas with white! Hey ho.
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leahcimi wrote:Following your comment, Joe about having only 30 frames in his Free Pack instead of 48, I checked mine. Only 30! I contacted Akvis, who were very helpful and sent me a link to another copy which was fine.
As you know you can use Akvis Frames without an image and save just the frame as a PNG but the image area will be filled with white so, even if you erase the white in PSP, you won't get any semi-transparent areas. I tired an experiment of creating a 'blank' PNG in PSP (new image with no fill or background) to use with Akvis Frames. Sadly it filled the blank areas with white! Hey ho.
First, glad to hear that you benefitted by my mentioning that I only got 30 frames in the original download. It's obviously not a corrupt file but an incorrect file that AKVIS has on their download link. [ EDIT: I received an email from AKVIS saying that they have now reloaded the free frames file to make sure people get the full 48 frames.]

As to the transparency problem with the frames, I'm not sure why you mentioned that in this post. You had previously posted thanks to LeviFiction for his post showing how to load the frames files (the .data and .mask files) into PSP to use the .mask file to provide the proper transparency, so obviously that's the method to use.

Also, if you follow LeviFiction's instructions for unzipping the free files and then using drag and drop to load each .data and .mask file into PSP, then you should have seen my post with a script to make the process much faster and semi-automated. Running the script on each pair of files makes the process to achieve transparency and save into Picture Frames easy and fast. And you get the actual transparency, accurately, not the hit and miss result that you get from your original method. Did you forget about those posts?
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Thanks Joe, I saw the post and tried it. It works well with the Default & Free Frame Packs but not paid for ones which are password protected.
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leahcimi wrote:Thanks Joe, I saw the post and tried it. It works well with the Default & Free Frame Packs but not paid for ones which are password protected.
You didn't mention whether or not you have tried doing it with the script. It certainly makes the process much faster.

And yes, we are aware that you can't use the paid frames because AKVIS has obviously decided that they want to protect those files. That is, of course, their prerogative. The free ones (as well as the 12 that come with the program download) should be more than enough to experiment and have fun with, although of course using them in PSP should be for personal use and fun and not in any way exploited for commercial type purposes.
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Yes, the script works well too.
I don't use frames very much and the main reason for downloading Akvis Frames was to use the new paid for Steam Punk Pack. I make blank message cards with images on the front and my wife makes jewellery and we both attended craft fairs at Morwellham Quay in Cornwall. It is Victorian themed and attracts lots of local stem punk enthusiasts.
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leahcimi wrote:Yes, the script works well too.
I don't use frames very much and the main reason for downloading Akvis Frames was to use the new paid for Steam Punk Pack. I make blank message cards with images on the front and my wife makes jewellery and we both attended craft fairs at Morwellham Quay in Cornwall. It is Victorian themed and attracts lots of local stem punk enthusiasts.
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I see. If the free packs don't provide what you need for the cards then you'll have to continue using the paid ones in the AKVIS program. If the free packs did work for your needs, the more I think about it the more I'm not sure that they couldn't be used in PSP to produce what you make instead of the AKVIS program. My thinking is that if AKVIS is not placing any restrictions on the use of the free frames for commercial reasons, and given they don't make any money from the program itself or the free frames, then they don't lose any money regardless of how you use the free frames to achieve the result you want to achieve.

Similarly, they obviously make their money from the program by the sale of the paid frames. And once you have purchased the frame packs then they have received the compensation they expected to receive and how you process your images with them doesn't deprive them of anything. So, again, they shouldn't care how you use those frames.

I suppose one could argue that the frames themselves won't necessarily look quite the same when processed in PSP. But on the other hand one could argue that the paid frames become a more attractive alternative given the versatility they provide. Specifically, as in your case, if you find that you cannot use their paid frames to achieve the product you wish to produce within AKVIS Frames then you will stop purchasing their frames, and they will be deprived of that potential income. But if you were able to take those same paid frames into PSP where you could use them to produce your product to your needs, then you would be encouraged to pay for more frames that might add further variety and value to your product, so both you and AKVIS win in that situation.

AKVIS does not increase its income from their Frames program regardless of whether you frame your images or create your cards in that program rather than another one. Even once you have created your card in AKVIS with a paid frame there is nothing stopping you from opening the result in PSP and doing more post-processing, like cropping, resizing the whole image plus frame, etc.

But one doesn't know exactly what their thinking is, of course. :-) Without specific restrictions in a software's EULA, these types of questions continue to be a grey area in my opinion. And I generally take the position that if your use of software and its accessories doesn't deprive the developer of expected benefits (income, etc.) and your use of them does not defeat the INTENT of the EULA then the developers are unlikely to care one way or another.
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