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Hey guys,
Trying to get into Corel and am running the free trial of 2018 currently.

I used footage from my GoPro Hero 5 which was filmed in NTSC MPG4 2705x1520 24bits (2.4k I believe). I ran this through a converter to get it to 1920x1080 since I couldn't find a default rendering setting for that initial resolution in Video Studio.

I was having issues with the video playing back in the editing view window correctly, it would get all pixelated in areas of the footage. I ignored this during editing and tried to render a finished video however the choppiness and pixelations are present in there as well.

This is why I converted to 1920x1080 and have changed the project properties to various settings, currently trying MPEG4 1920x1080, 30p, 8mpbs in order to try to get this to work, however the pixelations and chopiness still are present in the edit window. Below is a screenshot of such pixelated blurs that occur.
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The software also bogs down extremely when I open the project.

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Gah, I renamed the folder all the new res videos were in so it would unlink them. Then made a fresh set of 1280x720 versions and relinked the entire project to those, changing the project settings to 1280x720 as well and VOILA! All is well. I guess the computer can't handle 1920x180?
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Not possible to judge rendering/sharing a project with the Trial version. Corel cripples the capabilities of the trial version and I don't know what is crippled, not sure if the website states what is crippled either. What you are doing should work. You could try buying and getting a refund if it still fails to do what you want.
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Just about everything that requires Corel to pay a licence fee has been crippled in the trial version, but as Al has stated, it should work correctly, Ken is the forum wiz on GoPro, he may be able to advise you further
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Re: Issues on first use

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Despite Robert's kind words, my GoPro experience is rather dated these days, since I have never upgraded from my now fairly old Hero 3 Black. It still suits my needs, so I have seen no point in the expense of getting a newer model with more bells and whistles. And in my general video editing, I still haven't dipped my toe into 4K video. So no experience there to relate either.

All I *can* say is that I agree with what has already been said about how badly crippled the trial version is. We have repeatedly told Corel over three versions now that they are shooting themselves in the foot with it since it doesn't allow users to do very much with it at all. Moreover, the limitations are hardly likely to entice people to buy it.

As far as GoPro footage is concerned, one perennial problem has repeatedly been the GoPro frame format settings which do not conform to international standards for things like DVDs and Blu-Ray discs. Given that cameras like the GoPro, and HDTVs and 4K UHDTVs that can play videos direct from a USB stick or external hard drive, this limitation in Video Studio is becoming untenable. But Corel has yet to grapple with it fully. Perhaps in the next edition... I'm also out of touch with what GoPro's own Studio software can do these days. Have you had a look at that?

But in regard to my comment about non-standard frame sizes, your mpeg-4 frame size of 2705x1520 is a case in point. It is not a size which VS would recognize as conforming to international standards, so your decision to convert it to something more standard was a good one. My first thought would have been 2560 x 1440, but looking at VS Custom settings, there are no obvious presets which use that frame size either. However, it might just be possible to make a Custom template for that using the Add function in VS Settings > Movie Profile Manager. We can discuss that later if required.

I can't understand, though, why converting it to standard HD 1920 x 1080 didn't work. Which converter did you use? There are quite a few available, of course, though we usually recommend Handbrake or Format Factory. The other project properties you set out also should have worked. And again I can only think their failure to do so was the fault of the trial version. They certainly should in the full version -- though we cannot say for sure unless we had a small sample of your footage to play around with. Do you by any chance have a Dropbox or similar account where you could upload such a sample which we can then download?

Looking at your computer specifications, you should not need to use this. But VS has something called SmartProxy where editing of HD/UHD video is made smoother by the creation of standard definition copies ("proxies") of the HD/UHD originals. The editing is done on these and playback is smooth. When satisfied, the edits are all applied to the originals. However, I have to confess that I am not even sure that the trial version allows SmartProxy to be used.

But at least you have now found that 1280 x 720 works smoothly, so you have at least been given an idea of what things look like. However, to repeat what has already been said, in reality, 1920 x 1080 is rock standard for VS and should also have worked.
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Re: Issues on first use

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Hi Guys

I have installed the trial version of 2018 and was pleasantly surprised to find it compares quite favourably with the purchased version.
Limitations seem to be associated with Digital Dolby which affects my MTS type video formats.
The burner module only allows burning of DVD, no Avchd or Bluray, that is an improvement to X10 trial.

Show Messages works for most formats I tried other than having Digital Dolby audio
Project Properties can be set to HD and 4K standards
Smart Proxy is available for the trial version.
Share – “Same as first clip” for some reason is unavailable although “Same as Project Settings” is available.

I feel the trial should work as well as the purchased version, bold statement I know, but for the time I have spent today it looks ok.

Then the MCE crashed the program, cannot win then all.

If you are having timeline playback issues, make sure the project properties match the video files properties, if that's possible
Activate Smart Proxy to create those proxy files
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lata wrote:...make sure the project properties match the video files properties
I'd make a small but important addendum to that, Trevor. If you are talking about the *original* video file properties, I am virtually 100% sure that VS won't allow that in the case of those GoPro videos filmed in an unusual format size such as that used by julchak. GoPro cameras can be set to use international frame format sizes, but also allow these other sizes. So that's why I suggested it was good that he had converted the originals to a standard size. But then, of course, whether that size was 1920 x 1080 or 1280 x 720, the Project Properties should of course match, especially if you are aiming to use Same As Project Settings to produce a new video with identical properties.
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lata wrote: If you are having timeline playback issues, make sure the project properties match the video files properties, if that's possible
Activate Smart Proxy to create those proxy files
The trial has improved in the fact that Project Properties can be set for HD and not limited to SD as earlier trials.

There will always be a problem with unusual frame sizes, although Go Pro sizes needs to be addressed by Corel.
I do not have GoPro samples to test on trial but if one can be provided I am willing to try?
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Additional Trial 2018 tests

Trial version Frame **** (any number) unreadable

Using MP4 video files causes error, program slows.
Other clips show black sections on the timeline , plays ok, but preview screen reverts to black when video paused.

Scrubbing timelines shows preview screen as black for some video types.
Scrubbing is slow with preview screen not keeping up with curser, makes it practically impossible to work with.

I had hoped that the use of HD settings for Project Properties would have improved editing, unfortunately not so.

I am having problems with all types of video files I have used.

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Just to confirm I did not have these issues when running the full version
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