PSP X9 - Resize Vector proportionately

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PSP X9 - Resize Vector proportionately

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Hi all,

I have a Vector Circle object.

Is there a way to increase or decrease the circle exactly when grabbing the handles of the object e.g. with Alt, Shift or Cmd?

Thank you!

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If you are asking for a way of changing the size of the vector circle then yes using the pick tool and moving the corners.
Or is the important part of your question the "exactly" ( doesn't really make it clear) so that you need to be able to make a vector circle exactly 300 pixels in diameter?
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I think the title of the post is the answer -- in other words he wants to be sure that when he expands a vector circle, it remains a proper circle and does not become deformed into an oval. But I personally don't know the answer.
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Thanks guys.

Yes, exactly as Ken says!
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And as I said in my answer use the pick tool and move the corner (diagonally outwards or inwards and it is the same as Scale with raster layers).
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EDIT: I just discovered that, while the long method I used below works, the Pick tool also works if you right-click the corner node while dragging. That constrains the tool to Scale mode.

I'm using PSP2018 but this works in X9 also. In the Preset Shapes tool dropdown select Elipse, and in the tool options bar select Circle. Draw your circle. Select the Pick tool, which will draw a rectangle with nodes around the circle. Then select the Pen tool. Place the Pen cursor on one of the nodes and hold down the Shift key while dragging. It will allow you to resize the circle in Scale mode (i.e., it won't change the shape).
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hartpaul wrote:And as I said in my answer use the pick tool and move the corner (diagonally outwards or inwards and it is the same as Scale with raster layers).
It doesn't do that for me. Dragging the corner node allows me to change the circle to any ellipse shape I want. I'm using PSP2018 but results are the same in X9.

EDIT: I just discovered that if I right-click on the corner node using the Pick tool then it constrains the tool to Scale.
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My 2018 (20.0) behaves the same as PSP X9.
with a vector circle on the canvas, choose the Pick tool and hover the cursor over one of the corners til it changes to a diagonal 2 headed arror and then drag out. I even tried dragging that corner point horizontally and it still does scale change.
So maybe that has been broken with the Update 1.
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hartpaul wrote:My 2018 (20.0) behaves the same as PSP X9.
with a vector circle on the canvas, choose the Pick tool and hover the cursor over one of the corners til it changes to a diagonal 2 headed arror and then drag out. I even tried dragging that corner point horizontally and it still does scale change.
So maybe that has been broken with the Update 1.
Do you right-click or left-click to drag?

You should be using the latest update, because your version should be 20.2. Then it works but with a right-click instead of a left click. And that's the way it works also with my X9. If your X9 works in scale by dragging with left click then that isn't the way mine works, and my X9 has all of the updates also.
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Unless otherwise mentioned my dragging is done with a left click.
Right clicking on a corner (node) does not seem to do anything and I tried that back in Jasc PSP8, Corel X4, X9 and 2018.
Right click dragging has a shearing effect on the circle if I diverge from direct diagonal.
Left click on the corner and drag gives a scaling effect even when diverging from the diagonal line.
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For me PSP8 is the only one that works as JoeB describes. Right-click maintains scale, left-click lets me resize width and height separately.

PSPPXi, PSPX9, PSP2018 all left-click maintains scale, right-click lets me resize width and height separately. So he exact opposite of what JoeB describes. And that's how I always remembered it working. And yes all versions of PSP are up to date including 2018.
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Thanks guys.

I have version 19.2.0.7 - today left click and drag on a corner seems to work OK to rescale perfectly but it definitely didn't yesterday!

One thing I noticed yesterday is that the circle wasn't perfect so I dragged it to a corner and resized it using the ruler and then recentred.

Strange!

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Given what everyone else is saying it appears that I am the odd man out because when I create a circle from Preset Shapes and left click I can change the shape of the circle into an ellipse. If I right click the circle expands or contracts as a perfect circle. Works like that in X7, X9 and 2018.

I may have an answer (a guess) about why that is the case. I'm left handed so have my buttons reversed. HOWEVER, when posting about clicks I use the terminology of the majority of users. That is, when I actually right click I describe it in posts as left click and vice versa. For example, right handed users right click to bring up a context menu. I actually left click to do that but describe it in posts as a right click because that is what it is for most people.

I'm thinking that, for this particular operation, PSP isn't following the reversal of my buttons and instead of treating my left click as a right click it is treating it as a left click, as if the buttons weren't reversed in my mouse properties settings. I would add that for any other operations I have done with PSP the program adheres to my mouse button reversals - e.g., when I left click (right clicking for normal mouse arrangements) I get a context menu, etc. At least I think they do, in that when I follow other people's instructions (or those of a tutorial or help file) I just reverse the described mouse clicks and it works.

I notice another oddity given the last post by @mus. He said left click didn't work to size to scale yesterday but does work now. You'll note my first post on this subject that had a "workaround" to make it work. That's because when I first tried to use both right click and left click when experimenting with 2018 neither option resized to scale but allowed me to change width and height. It was only after I did more testing (with both X9 and 2018) that the programs started to work as I described - i.e., using my own reversed mouse buttons as actually used, left click scales for me, right click deforms (which would translate for right handers into right click scales, left click deforms).

Very odd all around.

Again, keep in mind that in all of my posts (except the instances in this one where I made it apparent) I use the nomenclature of a normal mouse arrangement used by right handed users.
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