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Getting the best quality viceo to burn to DVD

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So I have recorded a program off the TV onto a DVD-RW and the quality of the picture is good. I believe it is recorded as mp2. Now when I go into VS and edit out commercials and such the the video is still good. But being it is too long I have to render it into a more compact size. This degrades the video so when it is burned to the disc it is poor quality. Question is, is there a good way to get good quality for something like this? If it can be recorded to a DVD-RW with good quality why cannot it be burned thru VS with the same quality?
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If the video fits on a DVD when recorded from the TV complete with commercials. why is it to long after you have removed the commercials , surely it is much shorter then

render it out using the exact same properties as the original recording almost any compression to a more compact video is likely to degrade the quality
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Hi

Give us some details of the properties of the original video files.
You recorded to a DVD disc and I assume using MPEG2 video.

Right click the original video and choose properties, what are they?

From Preferences ( F6) you should first make sure that Show Messages when inserting…. Is selected, then start a new project.
When you add the video to the timeline the program should prompt you to match the properties.
View Details – the right hand panel will display the videos properties, you can copy and paste those details to your post.

When you have completed the project you should render to a new video file, Share – choose Same as Project Settings or Same as First Clip (options top left)
That will render the project using the same settings as your original and should retain the same quality and size.
As BJC’s comments the file should fit to disc if you render using the original properties.
Use that file to create a disc Image ISO, can play that file using VLC media player to check quality, if ok then burn the disc using Tools – Burn from Disc Image ISO, should reduce the amount of coasters.....

Oh from Preferences (F6) Edit Tab set Resample Quality to Best, may improve render quality.
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I will give that a try the next time I do a recording. The recording I am having problems with I no longer have the original, only the converted mp4 file. This is a good clean file but I do not seem to be able to get a good copy that I can put on a DVD. Thanks for the help so far.
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Where did that mp4 file come from all of sudden?

As BJC posted, if you got the video from a DVD, edited it (which should make it shorter) then how can it be too long to fit on a DVD?
Perhaps you should detail exactly the steps you are doing.

How long in time is the unedited and edited video? What settings are you using to burn to DVD?
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Why are you deleting the original before you have completed the project

if you have a problem , like now . it might help if you went back to the original and started again. At least keep the original until you are happy with the final outcome

since it is on a DVD it is not taking up computer drive space . buy some more discs and keep the recordings for a while
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ottersea wrote:So I have recorded a program off the TV onto a DVD-RW and the quality of the picture is good. I believe it is recorded as mp2. ?
When we burn a DVD Disc we have to use MPEG2 video files, those are the only types suitable to burn a disc.

When you recorded from your TV we assume the files were MPEG2, it is those files properties / settings that should be used to edit and ultimately burn a DVD.
There is no reason to convert to any other format, Mpeg2 should be used for all your work when burning a DVD.
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I am using a DVD-RW to record the program. After I put it on the computer I will then use it to record another program erasing the other one. Anyway that is what I did so not longer have the recorded program. VS does not see the recorded program. The one on there now, if I look at the disc has folder VEDEO_TS. In that folder there are 7 files. VIDEO_TS.BUP, VIDEO_TS (.ifo), VIDEO_TS (.vob), VTS_01_0.BUP, VTS_01_0 (.ifo), VTS_01_1 (.vob) and VTS_01_02 (.vob). The only way I have found to get VS to see this is to convert it over to mpg4. In the conversion is show the file to be as 1:59:53 MPG2VIDEO 352X480 4:3 2112kbps 29.92fps ACH3 48Khz 256Kbps Stereo How do I get VS to see this recorded DVD?

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Okay I see where to import the video using inport digital media. I have been doing it wrong all this time. Sheesh. As I said the program I am having the problem with is not in mpg4 and the mpg2 has been overwritten. Will try this next time around.
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Hi
Have a read at this we page
http://lata.me.uk/corel/importdvd/dvd.htm

You mention the file as being 352 x 480, look strange sizes, maybe known as “half D”.
Full DVD would be 720 x 480, so make sure your recorder is set to record those sizes.
The data rate of 2112kbps is also very low.
At 8000 would be high quality DVD for one hour
At 6000 good quality DVD for 90 minutes
At 4000 approximately VHS quality 120 minutes
So 2112kbps is pretty low, you will struggle with quality
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Thank, will try that the next one I record.
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Instead of going through the Import function, another way of getting your DVD-RW content into VS would be to transfer the files with the .VOB extension to your computer. Then change .vob to .mpg as that is what they are in reality (mpeg-2). This usually works.
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ottersea wrote:I am using a DVD-RW to record the program. After I put it on the computer I will then use it to record another program erasing the other one. Anyway that is what I did so not longer have the recorded program. VS does not see the recorded program. The one on there now, if I look at the disc has folder VEDEO_TS. In that folder there are 7 files. VIDEO_TS.BUP, VIDEO_TS (.ifo), VIDEO_TS (.vob), VTS_01_0.BUP, VTS_01_0 (.ifo), VTS_01_1 (.vob) and VTS_01_02 (.vob). The only way I have found to get VS to see this is to convert it over to mpg4. In the conversion is show the file to be as 1:59:53 MPG2VIDEO 352X480 4:3 2112kbps 29.92fps ACH3 48Khz 256Kbps Stereo How do I get VS to see this recorded DVD?

Edit
Okay I see where to import the video using inport digital media. I have been doing it wrong all this time. Sheesh. As I said the program I am having the problem with is not in mpg4 and the mpg2 has been overwritten. Will try this next time around.
What program are you using to record to the DVD? Why can't you record directly to your computer?

For a 2 hour program to fit on a DVD, the recording program has to compress the video a lot to make it fit on the DVD. That is why you are getting the very low resolution and extremely low bit rate. This results in very poor quality video.
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It is not a program. I record it on a Sanyo DVD recorder

I know that it will degrade somewhat but the mpg4 clip I have on the computer is okay for me. I am used to VHS quality so it does not have to be 4k or the like. The issue I have is that when I burn that clip after I am done editing it comes out really bad. I did not know that you can import directly from the DVD so will try that next time. Computer is really to far from the TV to be able to record directly to it.
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