Mercalli loses analysis of multiple clips from the same file

[tletter]

after applying Mercalli we cannot cut the clip to remove the bad parts, that will require a re-scan on all separate clips.

Of course you could render the clip after applying Mercalli and then cut the rendered clip to remove the bad parts as is your want.

[lata]

after applying Mercalli we cannot cut the clip to remove the bad parts, that will require a re-scan on all separate clips.

Of course you could render the clip after applying Mercalli and then cut the rendered clip to remove the bad parts as is your want.

As mentioned earlier, it would be good if "Save trimmed Video" was available after applying Mercalli, strange why it should be greyed out?

[lata]

Hi BikerDave1

We were aware of an installation location issue with earlier Web Installers, reported to Corel 18th May.
Corel have changed the Web Installer aka Stub versions a few times.
Initially we were not able to choose an installation folder, the first updated Web Installer changed that, unfortunately installed 64 bit to the wrong folder, (C:\Program Files (x86)) although that should not affect the running of the program.
You can download a new version of the web installer from the trial web page, use that to install the program, should now install 64 bit to C:\Program Files\Corel
https://www.videostudiopro.com/en/free-trials/

As far as I know the latest versions size is 10.823Kb

I do not think installing the program to the wrong folder will affect the Mercalli function, but you never know.

Post Updated

I have tried re-installing the program using an older Web Installer but always installs correctly.
I assume it is the main program files that have been updated.
I suggest you run the web installer to download the latest Main program files again.
Then the next time you feel like re-installing the program use the new files.
And yes the old folders size is a little different to the ones downloaded today.

[BikerDave1]

Hi lata

I purchased the VS 10 Ultimate CD directly from Corel. The folders are dated Jan 10, 2017 and the EXE is dated Jan 11, 2017. I don't have a problem uninstalling the program from the computer. Is there a best method to uninstalling the program? I saw there is a special uninstall app in the Stickies. Should I use that instead of or after the usual/typical uninstall? Also, your link is for the Trial. Is that for the Ultimate? If not, how do I go from that program to the Ultimate? And if all goes well Mercalli will work as intended, the program installs to the 64bit folder, and the other 64bit Effect apps won't be chasing connectivity with a program installed to the 32bit folder.

[lata]

Hi BikerDave

The Cleanup tools you refer to seem to do a better deeper clean of the registry, although that is difficult to prove.
However does not remove personal data with some folders remaining, read the notes on that post.
Personally I use Program and Features to uninstall the program and the Cleanup should that fail.

Ultimate or Pro version
Video Studio is provided via three packages
1 / The Main program, installs Video Studio
2 / Contents, maybe a second Contents 2, these complete the installation of the program, by installing extra samples and templates.
3 / Bonus Features, contains the Prodad and NewBlue stuff, this updates the program to the Ultimate version.
If you purchased the Pro version, there will be an icon within the program UI to update to the Ultimate version, at an extra price.

The link to the Trial version was merely to get the latest or newer version of the Web Installer.
Running that will allow us to insert our serial number, the program will then allow us to download the appropriate files and install the program.

I would advise that you download at least the Main Program using the new Web Installer file adding your existing Serial Number. You will have the choice to Download Only so can do this whilst the old VS is installed. ( deselect Do Not Download Installed programs)

Personally I would download all packs again, although you may have had a reason in purchasing the disc version, download speeds etc.

Unfortunately I cannot say that installing Video Studio is gonna fix the issues you are having with Mercalli.
All I can say is if you are going to re-install use newer versions of the installation files.

[BikerDave1]

Well well well....looks like I can do the usual now and Mercalli V2 is working as expected. A fresh install with the latest trial VideoStudio installed to the 64bit folder and went without a hitch! My MOON test went just fine the first time around. Didn't even have to save it before I tackled the second clip. I suppose my earlier steps can be tossed though I thought it was a good workaround - thinking out of the box at the time. Also, I have the downloaded files saved as backup in case anything should go astray and can now I can use the CD with the old Jan '17 files as a coaster!

As a note: The Mercalli V2 does do a much better job with the defaults than the De-Shake FX at 'max of 5' setting.

Thanks to lata and tletter for your involvement and your time and effort. Mucho thanks!!

[Matt8890]

I found the most consistent way to deal with this was to create multiple clips in explorer of the ones that I wanted to cut and apply Mercalli to each of them.
I did at times find cutting the clips and then applying Mercalli to each cut clip also worked
I don't have sure fire answer but these above actions did allow me to complete the clips I was producing
Thanks for all the thoughts and ideas to try

[Desertsweeper]

I paid for the upgrade to Ultimate just to get this filter... and I cannot get it to stop this behaviour - even using BikerDave1's technique - the moment I move the clip back up to the first timeline it wants to be analysed again. Junk
EDIT1 It does work as he says but only with three clips - four or more and one that was working suddenly needs to analysed again...
EDIT2 Actually no it appears to allow three clips to work but when you go to render - only one comes through cleanly - all other clips have the message to analyse embedded in the video.

[lata]

I paid for the upgrade to Ultimate just to get this filter... and I cannot get it to stop this behaviour - even using BikerDave1's technique - the moment I move the clip back up to the first timeline it wants to be analysed again. Junk
EDIT1 It does work as he says but only with three clips - four or more and one that was working suddenly needs to analysed again...
EDIT2 Actually no it appears to allow three clips to work but when you go to render - only one comes through cleanly - all other clips have the message to analyse embedded in the video.

I don't get it, I must be doing something differently

When I apply Mercalli to a video clip on the overlay track then drag that clip up to the top track Mercalli remains intact.
The only way I am asked to Analysis again is after changing the clips length of changing project properties.
Standard editing of Mercalli seems to work for me, so what are we doing differently??

Can you use the sample video from the library, at least we will be using the same type of video

[tletter]

Ithe moment I move the clip back up to the first timeline it wants to be analysed again. Junk

I use Mercalli all the time and it's certainly not 'Junk'. Clips can be moved between video track without the need for Mercalli to reanalyze clips.

using BikerDave1's technique

Mercalli does not require this technique.

EDIT1 It does work as he says but only with three clips - four or more and one that was working suddenly needs to analysed again...

I routinely use Mercalli on VSPs containing 10s of clips that have Mercalli applied and not seen the behaviour that you report. Perhaps you are copying Mercalli attributes and applying them to other clips which is not supported.

EDIT2 Actually no it appears to allow three clips to work but when you go to render - only one comes through cleanly - all other clips have the message to analyse embedded in the video.

Again I've not seen this unless one is copying Mercalli attributes and applying them to other clips.

tletter
https://www.youtube.com/user/tletter

[Desertsweeper]

This has been fixed in VS2018 !!

[stevef]

Update Nov 22, 2022. After many attempts to use Mercalli Pro I can report that it is still woefully ineffective. All of the precautionary fixes and settings that are suggested by others have been followed in this thread and the properties are 1 to 1, exact as the source footage. However, a multi-trimmed clip DOES NOT keep the Mercalli analysis settings. Further, the drone footage used in this incidence are all separate shots that are trimmed into the timeline. The only way to make this work is to render each clip using the filter and then assemble into another timelime. FAIL

[lata]

Hi Steve
I assume you are aware of replying to a post from 2018, some 4 years old
Can you check which version of Mercalli you are using, this post refers.
https://forum.corel.com/viewtopic.php?p=391572#p391572

There has been a hot fix provided by Corel, please read this post.
https://forum.corel.com/viewtopic.php?p=389289#p389289

[stevef]

Thanks for the note. I'm still here. This forum is still here. And my searches led me to this thread, as it did to others. So until this thread is deleted or commenting is disabled, this thread is still relevant.

For those who find this thread too, while I am not sure about the above fix, I did reach out to customer support at ProDad regarding this issue. They sent me the below link, which I downloaded and installed and can confirm with 100% certainty that THIS IS THE SOLUTION... an upgrade for VS2021 and VS2022.

Download and install:

https://www.prodad.de/support/mercalli/ ... l64bit.exe

[Ken Berry]

Yes -- definitely un update to the Mercalli files. Interesting, though, that the update which comes with your link says it is Mercalli 5.0.519.3, yet when applied to the Mercalli programs which come with VS 2022 -- which show themselves before the update as 5.0.516 -- are updated to 5.0.518.