Video StudioX9 changing my project to Interlaced(lowerfield)

[atwsportscast]

This is absolutely killing me. I have gone to Settings...Project Settings and chosen DV/AVI and configured it to be 1920/1080 30fps FRAME BASED. Compression NONE. Then I go to share and select custom and choose the same settings. I hit start...it creates the file but then the file is 1920x1080 Interlaced Lower Field First....how...why!!!! Please help. This appears to randomly be happening to me. When I make files in the Multi-Camera editor this never happens but when I create the files straight from the normal timeline....it makes them interlaced no matter what my settings

project settings appear to be correct

share settings appear to be the same

[canuck]

What are the source file properties? What is it you are trying to create? Why are you rendering to DV format?
A bit more information would be helpful.

[asik1]

What are the source file properties? What is it you are trying to create? Why are you rendering to DV format?
A bit more information would be helpful.

He is not "rendering to DV format". he is making a simple non compressed AVI.

[Ken Berry]

Well why does the Properties box in the top photo have "Project Format" set as DV/AVI?

I confess, though, that I thought DV always used Lower Field First and not Frame Based. But even if he is trying to use uncompressed AVI, that would of course be huge, and it might be useful to know exactly what he is trying to produce.

[MrJohnny]

Hi atwsportscast

Cannot replicate your problem.

How do you know the properties have changed? Are you using MediaInfo/GSpot to ascertain?

Try choosing Share>AVI then + to add a new profile, set that to what you want and then render.

John

[lata]

Hi

Usually when checking properties with Video Studio if interlaced is used it clearly shows as Upper or Lower field, if Frame Based aka Progressive is used then there may be no indication, yes some formats will show Frame Based, but most will not indicate anything just the frame rate.

As far as I am aware we have to set some type of avi compression to achieve interlacing? I think? ( upps---quick test shows interlacing available with no compression)

I have to ask why are you converting to AVI. At 64 Gb per hour its quite large, and I would thing an unnecessary step to take, but then we do not know what you are trying to make
Our best options are usually to use the properties of our original video, unless we have a specific format, Mpeg4 for YouTube for example.

At the top of the Share panel are two options, Same as Project Properties and Same as first video Clip, can be very useful share options.........

[asik1]

I don't understand why do you care if the resulted file is huge.
The fellow need the AVI to be uncompressed.
In my VS lifetime I did output 2-4 minutes uncompressed AVI's.
Why you think it's the 157minutes child school play.

[Ken Berry]

... And I can only repeat to you both: why do you think he is trying to output uncompressed AVI when he has DV/AVI in mind???

[asik1]

... And I can only repeat to you both: why do you think he is trying to output uncompressed AVI when he has DV/AVI in mind???

Ken your marriage with VS is longer than mine, the DV/AVI is just for AVI's projects templates menu.
You know that DV is just a particular AVI.

[Ken Berry]

Yes it's a very particular form of AVI which I used in all my early years with video and Video Studio. I still have two cameras which film on tape using DV/AVI, but later moved on to HDV. And while compressed (running at 13 GB per hour of video) it is largely lossless. It also had pretty fixed Properties, as does HDV.

But it was used as an excellent editing platform but then output to something else -- usually mpeg-2 for burning first to CDs and then later to DVDs. That is why both canuck and I wanted to know first why he had chosen the DV/AVI platform and what he was intending to do with it i.e. whether he was intending to later convert it to something else and if so, what. Otherwise, it seems a very strange output format to have chosen.

[lata]

Hi

The original poster does mention DV-Avi but has chosen to use No Compression having a frame size 1920 x 1080 and Frame Based.
DV.Avi is a standard definition format using 720 x 576 (Pal) as is Mpeg2, from the images the poster is not using DV.Avi.

The question is why the Frame Based settings create an Interlaced video.
I have run a few tests and my results are ok with frame rates as original? Although a little tricky to vies the properties showing the Frame Based words.


But DV.Avi is a standard definition format using 720 x 576 (Pal) as is Mpeg2, it does not support 1920 x 1080.

[MrJohnny]

Hi

Screen shot of an AVI file exported from VS X10 Ult in GSpot. Notice the Fields/s output area is blank ie Frame based video. This was exported using Share>Custom>Gear Wheel (Cog)>AVI - Compression None > General - Frame type : Frame-based, Frame Size : Standard 1920 x 1080. It is PAL rather than NTSC.

Understand the OP frustration but, suspect there is an element of Operator Error.

John

[lata]

Hi Mr Johnny

As I said it is a little difficult to identify the frame order, like Video Studio the properties shown from Gspot do not say Frame Based or Progressive.

I used Media info that shows this for interlaced but nothing for Frame Based

Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Bottom Field First

But simply viewing the clips properties does not always give that info and can be confusing.

Using Video Studio viewing the Show Messages – Details tab does show as Frame Based, then the project properties are changed to match which also show Frame Based.

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Or add the video to timeline as first video, then choose Share - Same as First clip will show the properties correctly with frame order.

[skier-hughes]

As I said it is a little difficult to identify the frame order, like Video Studio the properties shown from Gspot do not say Frame Based or Progressive.

GSpot shows 25 frames, that means it is frame based/progressive.
If the file was interlaced it would have 50 fields for PAL, 25 upper, 25 lower, but fields is blank, so it is showing the file is not interlaced.