X9 ->Video Clip too short to add transition effect

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X9 ->Video Clip too short to add transition effect

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I am using Videostudio X9. Trying to add a transition after having done a freeze frame, and I get the error:
The video is too short to add a transition effect
So I did some changes, and have a video there that is over 3 min long, and I get the same error.

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Re: X9 ->Video Clip too short to add transition effect

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The rule with transitions is quite simple - the video each side of the transition must be at least as long as the transition before you apply it

so if you are adding a 2 second transition then each video must be at least 2 seconds long - that's seconds of clear video without any other transition on it

do you have a 3 minute freeze frame - if not then how long is each video and how long is the transition


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Re: X9 ->Video Clip too short to add transition effect

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Hi

If you are applying “freeze frame” then why do you want to add a transition?

Go to preferences (F6) – Edit tab
Deselect – Automatically add transition effect
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Re: X9 ->Video Clip too short to add transition effect

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lata wrote:Hi

If you are applying “freeze frame” then why do you want to add a transition?

Go to preferences (F6) – Edit tab
Deselect – Automatically add transition effect
Trevor, maybe to transition from/to the freeze?
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Re: X9 ->Video Clip too short to add transition effect

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Both the freeze frame and the following video are quite longer than the transition.

I am inserting the transition between the freeze frame and a different video. I am using the freeze frame to scroll some text, then move on to the next scene.

I even cut the freeze frame video and put video after the freeze frame, again longer than the transition, and still get I will double the message.

I will double check the lengths today. The error message seems straight forward. It almost acts like I have a spot in the timeline where the application is confused. I'll be sure that the lengths are in fact longer than the transition.
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Here's a screen shot where I have two videos and getting the error. The timeline shows evidence of plenty long videos:

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Ok. I deleted the two videos and a bmp that was just prior. I then added the videos, and still get the error. The project file must be corrupt some how.

I opened a new project, and added the same two videos to that, and was able to add a transition with no problem. Is possibly a way to evaluate/repair corrupt project files?

[Update]
I tried saving the project as a template, and then open a new project and use the template. Same issue.

[Update 2]
I CAN add it if I hold Ctrl and add to a single clip. I can add it to either clip, but not have it do the default of add to both.
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One thing I'm noticing...

I am splitting a clip several times...to cut out some long boring stuff. I am finding that if I do that 2-3 times, that may be when I get that error. Again, the video clips are plenty long.

Maybe it's related to splitting the clip up.
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Hi

When you select Freeze Frame the scissors are used to cut the clip at the curser position. That creates two clips. The frame at the cut point is then used to create an image, that image being inserted to the timeline, at the cut point
From the position of your curser, cutting MVI-2311 will create a short first clip.
How long is that clip.
From Preferences – Edit tab what is set in Default Transition Effect Duration.


Although the error messages says the video is to short, the transition will be added using a shorter duration.

Again I do not understand why you need to use a transition when using Freeze Frame, although its not wrong to do that.

Just read your last reply, yes the error relates to the cut clips not the full duration of the original clip.
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Hi Trevor

I really appreciate your input.
lata wrote:Hi

When you select Freeze Frame the scissors are used to cut the clip at the curser position. That creates two clips. The frame at the cut point is then used to create an image, that image being inserted to the timeline, at the cut point
From the position of your curser, cutting MVI-2311 will create a short first clip.

How long is that clip.
But I am not cutting 2311. 2311 is 54 seconds long.
lata wrote:From Preferences – Edit tab what is set in Default Transition Effect Duration.
One second.

lata wrote:Although the error messages says the video is to short, the transition will be added using a shorter duration.

Again I do not understand why you need to use a transition when using Freeze Frame, although its not wrong to do that.
Because while 2307 and 2311 are similar, there is not a smooth transition between them. Lighting is different, people in different places etc. So I want a transition.
lata wrote:Just read your last reply, yes the error relates to the cut clips not the full duration of the original clip.
That makes sense, and is what I expect. So here are lengths, based on using the freeze frame:

Resulting freeze frame: 10 seconds
Following clip: 54 seconds.

The one second transition gives me the error.

An interesting note: Once I get the error, deleting the freeze frame and then trying to transition between the last of 2308 and 2311 still gives me the error. That is two clips, 2308 is 187 seconds, and 2311 is 54 seconds.

I tried two tests in a new project:

I just recreated the issue in a new project:

- Created new project
- Added 3 minute clip
- Split it 4 times, deleting small portions of the clip (Ie. split twice and deleted the middle resulting part of the clip)
- Final act on this clip was to split once toward end, and deleted remaining part of clip
- At end of the clip, I did a 10 second freeze frame.
- Added a second clip
- Dropped a transition, and got the error.
- I deleted the freeze frame...still get the error

So in above scenario and my real project, it appears that the software will not put a 1 second transition with a 10 second bmp file.

Just tried something different:

- Added clip 1, did not split
- Added Freeze Frame of 10 seconds at end
- Added second clip
- Added transition

And I got a different error:
The duration of the inserted clip is too long. It will be trimmed to fit.
Clip too long?

Tried last test again, and did NOT get the error above.

And another test:

- Added 2308
- Added 50 second freeze frame
- added 2311
- Added transition
- Got the too short error

I think the program does not want to put a transition between a freeze frame and a video, and once the error happens, then it repeats even if delete the freeze frame. AT least, that is exactly what is happening to me.



I'm beginning to think the software is buggy. (Of course, any software will have a but here and there).
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Hi 56, your actions not very clear as I have no trouble adding trans to freeze frames.
Your screenshot isn't clear as it's too wide, zoom your view closer so we can see.
Maybe there is a single frame hiding between those clips.

Or better still is you capture your action and load to YT we can understand.

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I just discovered the problem. When I create the freeze frame, at the end of it is a 00.00.00.01 frame. See screen shot:

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If I delete that, then I can insert the transition.

It's interesting. I am zoomed in 100% to see that. And then I hit the End key to go to the end of the clip, it stops just short of what appears to be the end, as you see in the above picture.
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asik1 wrote:Hi 56, your actions not very clear as I have no trouble adding trans to freeze frames.
Your screenshot isn't clear as it's too wide, zoom your view closer so we can see.
Maybe there is a single frame hiding between those clips.

Or better still is you capture your action and load to YT we can understand.

** VS has many bugs (like min trans 1sec setting) but I thing yours is resolvable.

Yup. You wrote that while I was writing what I found. Not sure why the single frame is being created. But I have resolution.

Thanks all for your input.
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Hi

Thanks for the feedback on that, very strange, I will try to replicate that?
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Hi

Ok I got it

You are trying to extend the length of your video by adding an image of the last frame.
You can do that manually without using Freeze Frame.

Navigate to the end of your video, Edit menu “Take a snapshot”
Saves an image to your working folder and places a thumbnail in the library
Drag that to the timeline at the end of your video.

Freeze frame is an auto method of the above, but normally used to stop the motion mid stream.
First time I have heard of using it at the end of a clip, and that seems to be the issue?

Interesting all the same……..
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