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Running vs Ultimate 9.5
Have completed a video and want to smart save
Did smart save on different disk
Smart save was successful, i.e. would bring the project up again OK except:
Disk label was missing, found that in the Audio Working file and that's an easy regenerate
Video menu was missing....can't find it

Question: Where does a project menu get saved when doing a smart save to a different disk. Menus take a lot of effort to generate and it is not acceptable if, on a smart save,, they have
to be regenerated.

Would appreciate any input on this question.....
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Re: smart save

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Hi
No such thing as Smart Save……..
Are you referring to Preferences (F6) Auto Save interval?

That option does not save our project, the only way to save a project is using the normal windows save options.
File – Save or Save As
Keyboard shortcuts Ctrl+S

The Auto save option is there to recover a failed / crashed project, certainly it must save the details somewhere, maybe a cache file, but does not save to the VSP project file.

A little confusing I know but that is the way it works.

File Save / Save as will save a VSP to any location of your choosing, by default will use the Projects folder under the Documents structure

To open a project first run the program then File – Open Project
Also to the bottom of the list are 4 recently used projects, can be used as a quick launch.

As for Disc label missing, I don’t understand, can you explain.

Burning a disc
When we close the burner the program saves/ transfers the details back to the timeline project, then prompts us to save that project, doing so will retain all edits made in the burner module.
That will allow us to open that project and access the burner to find all our menus in tact.

I give that project a meaningful name so I can find it in the future, “MyHoliday_BurnBD” for example.

Again there is no magic saving, this has to be done by the user.
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I assume you mean "File >> Smart Package" -- if not can you explain what you are trying to do

Smart Package is a way of physically copying everything in a project so that you can move the project to a totally different computer - *should* make a copy of everything used in the project - only necessary if you are moving the project to a different computer - if you are only ever going to open the project on the same computer then "File >>> Save" is sufficient - this will create a .vsp file which you can open again to continue editing

by 'Disc Label' do you mean you made a label in the label making option in the burn module - don't think that is considered part of the project by Videostudio - I haven't tried it but I would not expect a disc label to be saved as part of the smart package - After you have created the label you can go via "Files" in the top left corner and choose to save the label - you could then copy that with the smart package to your external drive/USB stick (or whatever you are using to transfer the package) and open it again for printing on the remote computer

After you have created the disc menu do you d two distinct separate saves before saving the smart package - after you have made the disc menu close the Create Disc window and you will be prompted to save - use your project name - - then do a "File >> Save" that should then save the menu into the project - then try again with the "File >> Smart Package" option



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Re: smart save i.e. Smart Package

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Hi guys;

I got us off to a blurry start with a vernacular error in my post….SMART PACKAGE is the function I am interested in. Don’t have any problem with SAVE/SAVE AS/ AUTOMATIC SAVE INTERVAL. Also can easily generate customized video menu pages and/or CD/DVD labels.

The following description gets a little tedious and possibly redundant, but best illustrates the context of the question:

I create disc labels by going to the--SHARE/DISC/DVD (burn-module) work window and, clicking on the printer image in the lower left of the window, get to the window for creating labels which I will call the label-module]. Have no problem with any of that. After the label is satisfactorily generated the results can be saved by using label-module function--FILES/SAVE DISC LABEL. Have no problem saving.....turns out this generates a UPL file in the project’s AUDIO WORKING FILE folder. Then I --CLOSE the cable-module work window which takes me back to the burn- module work window to either create a MENU or do a BURN.

The burn module work window allows the creation of a menu using the--CREATE MENU icon in the lower left of the window. Generation of the menu is no problem but unlike the label option, there is no way to save the menu when completed. One must go on to--CLOSE the window or do a --BURN/CLOSE In trying to--CLOSE the window I am asked to--SAVE. Do so and save to the project file with the project name..

At this point, when the saved project is next ‘opened’ on the same computer, burn-module inspection shows that the MENUS PAGE and the LABEL are ‘brought up’ properly and are available for use.

To be prudent I now do a project--FILE/SMART PACKAGE function, since I move from computer to computer. After the little window comes up indicating success, I test by bringing the ‘packaged’ project back ‘up’ on the same computer. Comes up fine, but on inspection using the burn-module shows that the MENU PAGE and DISC LABEL have been reset to original null setting.

The DISC LABEL can be readily regenerated using the label-module--FILES/LOAD DISC LABEL function to load the UPL label-descriptor file previously created,

However, I don’t know where the MENU PAGE descriptor-file is located, or if it has even been created. If it hasn’t been saved, then the MENU PAGE must be regenerated. This can be a time consuming job,

here’s the question...Is the menu page considered a part of the video and not being saved? Or is the file hidden…………..?

I’ve used VS from the beginning of the product and love it; really appreciate your help to answer this question then I can plan according (like having to create the label in a different pgm...)
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Re: smart save

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Hi

When you created the Smart Package did you tick the two boxes, one for " Include Disc Settings"
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Re: smart save i.e. Smart Package

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Trevor:

I posted a detailed reply to your last post (e.g. checking the Save Disc Settings) two days ago but it hasn't come up online. Should I repost it?

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Re: smart save i.e. Smart Package

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tallone wrote:Trevor:

I posted a detailed reply to your last post (e.g. checking the Save Disc Settings) two days ago but it hasn't come up online. Should I repost it?

Tallone
Do you mean your post of Jan 4 above? If not then obviously it did not get posted, so repost please.
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Re: smart save

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Hi Trevor;

Here’s the repost……

After your last response I did some experimenting with Saves and Smart Package. Prior to our communications I would go directly from burn-module –CLOSE (which gave me a save) to do a –FILE/SMART PACKAGE. All appeared to go OK, got the small –SAVE window and after a short interval the –SUCCESSFULLY PACKAGED window would come up. I never got the window giving me the –SAVE DISC SETTINGS option, and, upon trying to later use the Smart Package file, the menu and label were missing.

Discovered that, after doing the burn-module –CLOSE, I had to do a proper –FILE/SAVE function first and then the –FILE/SMART PACKAGE function. The small –SAVE window appears, I’d --SAVE and the Smart Package work window then appears. This gives me the –SAVE DISC SETTINGS option.

Checked the box and, after the –SMART PACKAGE completed, brought the packaged project ‘up’, and the menu/label customized images were there!

That solved my problem, but the question of ‘what was really going on when I did not do a proper –SAVE' remains a mystery for the future. As an aside, what does the –INCLUDE ALL UNUSED TRACKERS IN THE PROJECT do?

I am not frustrated any more, thanks to you. Every time I get into FORUM I am totally impressed as to the level of user level knowledge you folks have, and your willingness to spend your time to help guys like me….kudos to you…

BTW: I incorrectly said earlier that the label UPL file was in the PROJECT AUDIO WORKING FILE but it really is in the PROJECT VIDEO WORKING FILE.

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