One of my DVDs has a motion menu with 20 second moving thumbnails but all of them are like skipping and kind of spazzing. My other DVD with motion menu doesnt do this.
Ideas?
PS: the movies themselves are fine.
Motion Menu Clips Skipping!
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rdenny
I have the same problem. The source videos are pre-rendered 45 minute NTSC-DVD, VBR4000, Dolby 128 (captured VHS). I just made a DVD from 3 of these. One of the motion menus is smooth as silk, the other two are jumpy (horizontal jumps, skips). When making the final DVD, I specified "don't convert compliant MPEG" since I purposely made DVD-compliant segments. They are all exactly the same MPEG specs, and identical to the specified final MPEG. The creation takes only 12 minutes, with most of it making themotion clips, almost all of the rest being a/v multiplexing. There is no transcoding going on (except probably to make the motion menu clips!).
Here's what's different between the smooth one and the two jumpy ones: The smooth one is set to use video from very close to the beginning of the 45 min segment. The other two are set to use video from at least 10 minutes into the 45 minute segments. It seems that DMF has problems making motion menu clips from video that is not close to the beginning of the chapter/segment.
EDIT:
I have partially confirmed this. By sliding my motion menu selectors back toward the beginning, now 2 of the 3 motion menus are smooth. But one is still jumpy. This is reallly annoying because this was the feature that led me to get the UVS9 to DMF4 upgrade in the first place!
-- Bob
Here's what's different between the smooth one and the two jumpy ones: The smooth one is set to use video from very close to the beginning of the 45 min segment. The other two are set to use video from at least 10 minutes into the 45 minute segments. It seems that DMF has problems making motion menu clips from video that is not close to the beginning of the chapter/segment.
EDIT:
I have partially confirmed this. By sliding my motion menu selectors back toward the beginning, now 2 of the 3 motion menus are smooth. But one is still jumpy. This is reallly annoying because this was the feature that led me to get the UVS9 to DMF4 upgrade in the first place!
-- Bob
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JefUK
I have the same problem. It happened after updating from 4.0 to 4.02 ( did not update to 4.01).
I have done several tests and confirm that it only happens when using an MPEG input file and transcoding the audio to Dolby, after changing the input audio stream to a WAV file. The video stream is unchanged. If I use the original MPEG audio it is OK. It therefore appears that the audio transcoding process is causing the problem.
I have a DVD created with version 4.00 which worked OK, but now using the same project file with 4.02 I get the jumpy/skippy motion menu.
I will try using a menu clip nearer to the start of the video.
PS
Now tried using a much earlier part of the video for the motion menu and the problem is still there.
I have done several tests and confirm that it only happens when using an MPEG input file and transcoding the audio to Dolby, after changing the input audio stream to a WAV file. The video stream is unchanged. If I use the original MPEG audio it is OK. It therefore appears that the audio transcoding process is causing the problem.
I have a DVD created with version 4.00 which worked OK, but now using the same project file with 4.02 I get the jumpy/skippy motion menu.
I will try using a menu clip nearer to the start of the video.
PS
Now tried using a much earlier part of the video for the motion menu and the problem is still there.
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JefUK
After further testing I have found that any VBR MPEG video that I have tried will cause the Motion Menu to stutter. The only way I have found to get a smooth motion menu is to use CBR MPEGS as input.
It seems that there is a bug in 4.02 which was not in 4.00 (or perhaps 4.01). I will now try going back to 4.00 or 4.01.
How do you report bugs to Ulead?
It seems that there is a bug in 4.02 which was not in 4.00 (or perhaps 4.01). I will now try going back to 4.00 or 4.01.
How do you report bugs to Ulead?
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rdenny
Jeff - Nice detective work! It makes sense, as the one remaining jumpy thumbnail has more mition and complexity than the other two. Maybe the peak bit is being reached and this is too much???
Since I have already encoded my segments in 2-pass VBR, I think I am sunk with 4.02. I'll uninstall and reinstall 4.0 without the update and see if that helps. As I said, this is the one thing I bought DMF for, so I probably don't need 4.02 anyway.
Since I have already encoded my segments in 2-pass VBR, I think I am sunk with 4.02. I'll uninstall and reinstall 4.0 without the update and see if that helps. As I said, this is the one thing I bought DMF for, so I probably don't need 4.02 anyway.
I need to know this as well.How do you report bugs to Ulead?
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JefUK
Just gone back to 4.01 and all works again. There is some jittering in the preview (as there always was) but the authored DVD is fine.
Conclusive that the problem is with 4.02 - version 4.01 is OK
Bug reported, through website: - http://www.ulead.com.tw/ulead/member/me ... feature=PR
Usual problem - some bugs fixed , some new ones introduced! Very annoying though - I spent hours trying to find out what was wrong and a work-around!
Conclusive that the problem is with 4.02 - version 4.01 is OK
Bug reported, through website: - http://www.ulead.com.tw/ulead/member/me ... feature=PR
Usual problem - some bugs fixed , some new ones introduced! Very annoying though - I spent hours trying to find out what was wrong and a work-around!
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rdenny
Once again, thanks! I did apply the 4.01 patch and found to my satisfaction that DMF4.01 does not have the jumpy motion menu problem. Now I have 2-layer capability. Cool!
Also thanks for the path to the bug-reporting form. I now know how to report bugs to ULead. I have sent 5 so far (UVS and DMF4), most of which are annoyances. This one though is a killer for me, as I bought DMF4 specifically for the control over the motion menus that UVS9 does not provide. Oh, and ULead has yet to respond
At the moment I am 100% successful (with care) in what I wanted to accomplish. Your help was the key.
-- Bob
Also thanks for the path to the bug-reporting form. I now know how to report bugs to ULead. I have sent 5 so far (UVS and DMF4), most of which are annoyances. This one though is a killer for me, as I bought DMF4 specifically for the control over the motion menus that UVS9 does not provide. Oh, and ULead has yet to respond
At the moment I am 100% successful (with care) in what I wanted to accomplish. Your help was the key.
-- Bob
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JefUK
Glad that 4.01 worked for you as well.rdenny wrote:Once again, thanks! I did apply the 4.01 patch and found to my satisfaction that DMF4.01 does not have the jumpy motion menu problem. Now I have 2-layer capability. Cool!
-- Bob
I have come to the conclusion that importing any MPEG video gave problems, and for some reason replacing the audio with Dolby in DMF4.02 made it worse. VBR MPEG's were much more affected than CBR, but careful listening to the MPEG audio on a CBR encoded disc showed that the audio was also distorted. On some VBR discs, with widely varying bitrates, there was severe stuttering of the video as well as blinking of the motion memu thumbnails.
I hope that Ulead quickly sort out this problem. Still, at least 4.01 works for what we need.
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luggal
4.02 Issues with Mark-In & Mark-Out
I don't bother with motion menus, but after updating to MF4 to 4.02, I was experiencing the video jumping in random movie clips that wouldn't occur in previous releases. Here's what would happen:
1. Pull mpg file from ReplayTV to PC via DVARchive
2. Run mpg file through rtvconvert so that audio & video would be in sync after burn
3. Load mpg file into MF4 (it's usually a 2-hour Headbanger's Ball from MTV2 that I'm pulling videos out of in the rare event they play a good one)
4. Find the start and end point of any music video that I want to keep using Mark-In and Mark-Out
5. Repeat steps 3 & 4 until I have all of the videos that I want
After I'd burn the DVD, some of the videos would be jumpy and the sound would be intact. If I burn a full program or movie onto DVD without cutting anything out of the file, I don't experience the jumping video.
Thanks to the info here, I rolled back to 4.01 and everything is working normally once again!
1. Pull mpg file from ReplayTV to PC via DVARchive
2. Run mpg file through rtvconvert so that audio & video would be in sync after burn
3. Load mpg file into MF4 (it's usually a 2-hour Headbanger's Ball from MTV2 that I'm pulling videos out of in the rare event they play a good one)
4. Find the start and end point of any music video that I want to keep using Mark-In and Mark-Out
5. Repeat steps 3 & 4 until I have all of the videos that I want
After I'd burn the DVD, some of the videos would be jumpy and the sound would be intact. If I burn a full program or movie onto DVD without cutting anything out of the file, I don't experience the jumping video.
Thanks to the info here, I rolled back to 4.01 and everything is working normally once again!
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JefUK
Re: 4.02 Issues with Mark-In & Mark-Out
Glad that 4.01 solved your problems as well.luggal wrote:... after updating to MF4 to 4.02, I was experiencing the video jumping in random movie clips that wouldn't occur in previous releases.
I had the same problem, although not to the same extent as you have done. Report the problem to Ulead - I have reported the flickering motion menu problem to Ulead and they are investigating.
The problem seems much worse with imported VBR MPEG's.
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JefUK