Re-installing X9

[Graham Robson]

Hi there
Because I've not been able to access the 9.5 download, I uninstalled X9 (Ultimate) and re-installed it to see if that would do the trick. Installation wizard didn't come up automatically - I had to go and find and activate setup.exe. All seemed to go fine. . . . . but on clicking the icon I got a long delay of the initial screen [the one that sits midway on the screen with the timer on it] and then a warning pops up "Load from stream error". Tried a system restore back to after it was uninstalled [couldn't see how to get back any further . . . e.g to before it was initially uninstalled . . . i.e. "as though it never 'appened"] and did it all again - same problem. Can you help, please?

[lata]

Hi

I think Load from Stream error relates to a corrupt library.

If the program runs, go to Settings and Reset Library.

Try resetting the program by re-naming the 19.0 folder.
Please read this web page for details, use 19 instead of 18
http://lata.me.uk/corel/reset/reset.htm

If you have to uninstall again use the cleanup tool from here.
http://forum.corel.com/EN/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=59847

Then remove the 19.0 folder as above resetting info.

Then re-install using the Ssetup.exe to start installation.

Also have a read at this post
http://forum.corel.com/EN/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=60224

[Graham Robson]

Thank you, Trevor. I'll see how I get on.

Best regards

Graham

[weaver]

Hi

I am here again. I am using the very stable VS X7. Some times ago I installed the VS X8 what was for me a disaster. It did not supported my older VSP files ( some of them are over 10 yrs old created with VS 10 or older editor). The VS X7 can open all of them, so some years ago I updated those vsp files by the VS X7 and saved them in my RAID ( exported the work, but nit rendered). Unfortunately for my videos I need the VSP version for modifications and adjustment. As the VS X8 could not work with old VSP files ( contacted also corel support, no help), I uninstalled the VS X8 and continued the work with VS X7.
Now corel pushes the VS X9.5.
The corel sales support could not confirm the compatibility with the old VSP files. Has anybody experiences what to do in such cases?

[lata]

Hi
Quick reply as I am on holiday.....

It is most likely that projects created using 32 bit windows will not open with 64 bit programs.
We're your older projects made with 32 bit programs.

The trial version will not open any projects unless made with the trial version

[weaver]

Hi Trevor

Have a nice holiday.

When I correctly remember VS X7 was the first VS with 64 bit ( at least it is on my 64bit W7) has no problems with the older VSPs ( now all converted to X7 format, while the VS X8 even with the assistance of Corel could not open any VSPs from X7. At least this is my experience and the reason why I returned the X8.w

[Davidk]

An observation on Trevor's remark re 64bit programs not opening 32bit projects . .

That would be unusual. One of the benefits of a 64bit computer is that it will run any 32bit software. A VS project file (not executable code, exactly) created under a 32bit version of the program should be similar . . and to test that, I started VS X9.5 ultimate 64bit, went back into my archives and opened a project I created 5+ years ago when using (32bit) VS11+. The project file opened OK, and after I'd fixed the re-links that occurred as a result 6 years of data archiving, it was fine.

I do recall that earlier this year, any projects created with the trial version of X9 would not open with the (later) purchased version. I think that bug has been fixed??

Davidk

[RobertOZ]

An observation on Trevor's remark re 64bit programs not opening 32bit projects . .

That would be unusual. One of the benefits of a 64bit computer is that it will run any 32bit software. A VS project file (not executable code, exactly) created under a 32bit version of the program should be similar . . and to test that, I started VS X9.5 ultimate 64bit, went back into my archives and opened a project I created 5+ years ago when using (32bit) VS11+. The project file opened OK, and after I'd fixed the re-links that occurred as a result 6 years of data archiving, it was fine.

I do recall that earlier this year, any projects created with the trial version of X9 would not open with the (later) purchased version. I think that bug has been fixed??

Davidk

That might be true in some cases, but I think there will be issues opening 32 bit vsp files when fx filters have been used, as 64 bit VSX9 will not be able to locate the 32 bit fx filters

[Davidk]

Hmmm . . .
For filters like Boris et al which are installed separately, even if they are 32 bit, they should still run under a 64bit program. Altho I did recall a case recently when that was the case for one filter, but in that instance there was an error msg. OTOH, opening a 64bit program under a 32bit OS isn't going to work.

The case originally asserted here was that older (32bit) vsp's would not open under VS 64bit. I would think that a 32bit vsp would open under VS 64bit, but there may be some re-link items, as I found. And maybe Roberts' instance is true in some cases regarding filters rather than data files of any sort. I've captured a screen fragment from that older vsp I mentioned which may illustrate both cases and raises questions.

Observations from this are:
1. note the selected photo image in the overlay track has a (pan and zoom) filter applied, and VS9.5 found that filter fine (the options panel, filter name displayed)
2. the video clip in the timeline next right above that has the filter symbol (FX) in it, but there's no filter shown when the clip is selected.

Thoughts on this
If the filter specified in the vsp is one which is still available, VS obviously has no difficulty finding it. But If it's a later version of the filter (as has happened with some frames between versions of VS) then the effect is probably not going to be that which was expected.

Which begs the question of what happens if the filter(s) in the early vsp aren't available in the later version of VS? Has that ever happened? And I think this is the case Robert is referring to.

The questions are
3. Where are the Fx filters stored? For instance, the items (pictures, clips etc) in the library gallery are located in the VS program folder samples sub-directory. A quick search thru the program sub-folders and using windows search, eg for the vignette filter, did not reveal any filters stored with VS. Boris et al installed separately in the windows programs folders are excepted.
4. Why would a timeline clip show the filter symbol but have no filter applicable, even if VS could not find it?
5. Every item in the 1st overlay track has a right angled dumbell symbol in it, but I can't find where there's any explanation of what that means.

Davidk

[lata]

Hi

The real question here is how old is old?
Weaver is trying to open vsp made with UVS10 or older, Corel did not take over the until after the release of UVS10 so we are talking Ulead.
I would imagine that weavers operating system to be XP or Vista, installations of the program files being in a completely different location will cause many problems, especially as weaver is now running 64bit.
Smart Package would help if it were available with UVS10, I believe Corel produced that.

Taking all into account I would not expect to much success opening projects made so long ago never mind expecting the edits / filters to be intact?

I would however expect X7 projects to open using X8 and X9

[weaver]

Hi Trevor

The VS x7 is running on W7 home premium in 64 bit version. It is until today very stable. Maybe you remember half a year ago we had a collaps on W7 due to 2-3 upgrades. That time I ordered upon Corel's advice the VS X8 what could not open the earlier vsp files ( made on VS X7 64 bit or earlier versions) so I stepped back to VS X7. Luckily here on the forum I find the solution for VS X7 collapse and deinstalled those W7 updates, since that time everything works perfect. I opened almost all my former projects ( few of them are over 10 yrs old just to check them on VS X7) - except the some missing files or special tricks/efx, everything was working fine - no troubles like on VS X8.
Last week I consulted Corel regarding the compatibility of VS X9 - nobody could confirm this. According Corel I should try it. This is what I find somehow unfair towards us.
Corel should test their products for compatibilty before the product release and such information should be in basic description of the product. The hot-line was searching over minutes and finaly they did not find any answer for me regarding the compatibility. I should try!

[asik1]

I don't know how many old VSp's you have weaver , but if X7 opens them OK why don't you re-save them as X7 projects?

[weaver]

I don't know how many old VSp's you have weaver , but if X7 opens them OK why don't you re-save them as X7 projects?

This is exactly what I did. In VS X7 I could open most of my projects and resaved them - that means they are now up to date for my system. In X8 I could not open the X7 projects. That was the problem.

[asik1]

OH, I didn't read closely all the thread.
First I'm sure you have a backup copies of all those new X7 ones.
Most problems are when speed is aplied to clips, if this is not in your case, so maybe you can upload one X7 vsp (that X8 don't like) for us to try. ** and maybe it's VS10 parent also.

[weaver]

I do not have my VS X8 any more ( ie I cannot test ). I am hesitating to buy the VS X9 that is why I am looking for your experiences as Corel could not confirm the compatibility. I do not want to spend ages for the upgrade (like I did with VS X8) and downgrade again ( and install all the stuff what I have in VS X7.