Fixing clip rotation black background

[asik1]

But still David , upload that clip .
I don't think that the bars should be there at all.
(and I don't have any mod file in my test folder )

[RobertOZ]

The clip is a whole 8sec and 11Mb long, and I was about to upload to OneDrive when I read the latest posts.

And the cropping filter indeed it does remove the black borders from the rotated clip image. But it took a bit of experimenting to establish how this filter works - other filters use sizing handles, with this one, you need to play with the percentages (height and width) until the crop border matches the outline you want. And once found, right click and copy to all key frames markers to make sure that the black zone does not come back as the clip plays.

Thanks all.

Davidk

Then you are using the wrong filter, there are 2 available filters, "Crop Boarders" and "Cropping", the one to use is Cropping and all you need to do is grab the centre yellow handle on each side and move it across to the where the black boarder starts on the video

[Davidk]

Hi Robert,
That's not what I see. The cropping borders filter is from New Blue, and it's the one with the sizing handles. But it crops the whole screen, not just the black parts of the image.

The cropping filter you asserted was the right one, is the one I did use, and this is what it looks like (no sizing handles here, just a dotted crop outline that can be adjusted with percentages)

To get this right, the sequence needs to be:
- clip in overlay track
- rotate it 90deg right or CW
- select the clip and use the overlay sizing handles to expand the clip on screen so it's vertical aspect of the portrait orientation uses the whole of the screen
- choose FX filters, cropping and drag to the clip
- select options, choose the filter and select customise filter, and the panel shows 2 panes, what it now and what it will be with cropping controls as a percentage of size applied.

If you don't choose to customise the filter, the on-screen sizing handles are for the size of the overlay image, not the crop.

For this capture, in the LH pane, I set the horizontal % at slightly more than the image width to show the start of the "black". 2% less and the sides of the crop border are on or slightly less than the image.

Davidk

[lata]

But still David , upload that clip .
I don't think that the bars should be there at all.
(and I don't have any mod file in my test folder )

Asik you can create your own sample, the extension is irrelevant, it an anamorphic video 720 x 576 x 16:9

Take any video, make sure it fills the screen so a 1920 x 1080 will do.
Render that to Mpeg2 720 x 576. That is your sample.

now use that in the overlay track, and rotate.

[lata]

Hi David

Did you miss this reply

Hi

another option would be to render the original 720 x 576 to a 1920 x 1080.
Then using the new 1920 to rotate, no borders.

Whatever you do the video will display as a smaller vertical panel, (portrait view)

[BrianCee]

But David has solved his problem Trevor - did you not read his last reply ?? - no need for any more experimentation

[lata]

Hi Brian.

I am very happy that David has solved his problem, and yes I did read all replies.
Clearly he read my reply here
http://forum.corel.com/EN/viewtopic.php ... 26#p331616

But I just wondered if he had missed the later post with an alternative option?

[asik1]

But still David , upload that clip .
I don't think that the bars should be there at all.
(and I don't have any mod file in my test folder )

Asik you can create your own sample, the extension is irrelevant, it an anamorphic video 720 x 576 x 16:9

Take any video, make sure it fills the screen so a 1920 x 1080 will do.
Render that to Mpeg2 720 x 576. That is your sample.

now use that in the overlay track, and rotate.

OH... OK did so.
I see the bars only when applying the 90-270 from the edit tab
No bars when using advance motion or the rotate in/out in basic.
I will look more in to it, but at first glance it's a bug.

[lata]

Hi Thanks Asik

I did not use Customise Motion but the Options – Edit tab has Rotate left and Right.
Using that shows the black borders.

Using Customise Motion to rotate does so without the borders.

So yes maybe a bug in the Rotate left and Right options.

So yep, Customise Motion is the way to go, set “Y” to -90 rotates right without borders.

[asik1]

Indeed DV 16/9 also has that.
That bug should have been reported in X6 beta or earlier, as such videos where alive and kicking.
There are much more current general annoyances in X9.X