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Re: Wishlist for PaintShop Pro X10

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Many users are using painthop pro on psp forums ... They have to upload images to a pictureserver as " Ptotobucket" ..; Why not a possibillity to upload these images to a picture server of here choice ...
This would be a great help .....

Another idee .... When i have to choose a color with my pipet .. The Menu appears in the middle of the screen .. ( Right over my Creation). Impossible to pick the wanted color without moving this menu board. Why not make apear this menu in the used program corner ....

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Re: Wishlist for PaintShop Pro X10

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photodrawken wrote:You know, for the life of me I can't understand why Corel abandoned the KPT plugins. They're now over 12 years old and still provide effects that nothing else does.

Fortunately, my copy of CDRGS X5 includes its version of the KPT Collection, so as long as I keep CDRGS installed I can run the KPT plugins in PhotoLine. Unfortunately, the plugins don't look too good on a high-res display (the interface becomes very small), but the effects are still top-notch.

I'd give my money to Corel in an instant if they made the KPT Collection available again as a separate purchase.
I had never looked into the KPT plugins and about a week ago I thought, "Hmm, what are these?", so I looked into both the ones from Corel and some books.

The info I found basically said that the KPT tools were bought from the original developer and after a few years not much was done to keep them current. They would have to be completely rewritten to run on 64-bit systems. Most of the books about them are more than 20 years old. People reviewing the books said they were pretty much worthless--they showed the results of the tools but not the steps to produce the result.
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Re: Wishlist for PaintShop Pro X10

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If anyone is interested in the history of the KPT (Kai's Power Tools) Collection, you can begin by searching the Web for "Kai Krause", the "K" in "KPT".

His applications (and there were many) ultimately became the MetaCreations company, which then went through a series of breakups and restructurings. Bits and pieces of MetaCreations were sold and re-sold to other companies. Ultimately, Kai Krause's Painter was purchased from FractalDesign by Corel, and Corel also acquired the KPT Collection somewhere along the way.

The KPT plugins are 32-bit and their effects work perfectly in 32-bit applications today (on Win10 x64 here).

Books written about the KPT plugins might very well be worthless, but the plugins themselves are still awesome after all these years. Like I said, most of the effects are still unavailable in any other software.
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Re: Wishlist for PaintShop Pro X10

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Rick_R wrote:WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS ONE IN EVERY LIST FOR YEARS, so let's not waste everyone's time with long debates bringing it up and shooting it down again!

Yes, some folks would like photomerge. PSP was purchased from JASC and uses a different code base than Corel's professional line. Adobe can spend a lot of money adding a feature to their expensive Photoshop line and then just disable parts of that code base to create Photoshop Elements. Corel would have to code and test photomerge from scratch just for its PSP product--for its low-end hobbyist product, a product that can sometimes be purchased for $40.

And, there are free programs available that do a pretty good job of photomerging.

Like other companies, Corel "designs to a price point". They decide how much the product will sell for and they determine what features it needs to compete with other products in that range. Then they see what resources they have (people, money, etc.) and what specifics they can do with those resources. The bottom line is that for most PSP users photomerge just isn't a big requirement. The few times we need it we can do it with other software.
With respect, I think that is drivel.

The product is fine at this point as a low-end hobbyist product, job done. But they appear to want to knock out a new version every year. And as such need to need to add features.

One could make the same argument for HDR photo merge, you probably did make that argument. It's just as valid, but they did add it. or any of the other major features they've added over the passed 10 years. If there's enough demand then they'll add it.

You're going to have to tell me what you think the relevance of it sometimes being available for $40 is? Surely that's basic economics, they extract as much cash out of the market at full price as possible and then wring the last bit out of those who weren't prepared to pay full price? this is a good thing surely.
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Re: Wishlist for PaintShop Pro X10

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PNG 8 handling.

It would be nice if it could export fully optimised PNG8. If not the ability to open them would be a start.
(I'm assuming neither of these things have been added in X9?)
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Re: Wishlist for PaintShop Pro X10

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TEXT:

Wish: Word-wrap for text fields, as an option for Text tool.

Wish: Justify text.

Bug: There's a very bad kerning bug. (Currently under investigation by PSP Level 2 group.)

Issue: Formatting of text is lost when copying text from one text block to another.

Wish: ASCII table.

Wish: Preserve text as editable when exporting to Photo Shop, if possible.


LAYERS:

Wish: Hide other layers.

Wish: Save layer as.

Wish: 'Use all layers' option for selection tool, to move content on all unlocked layers.

Wish: Export as separate layers.

Issue: Shift and Control click selecting of layers works only sporadically.


VECTOR:

Wish: Import vector as vector.

Wish: Export vector as vector.

Wish: Option to show vector as vector.

Wish: Objects. To turn a vector selection into an item. Do we really not have this!?


IMAGE MAPPER:

Bug: Image Mapper is resizable, but is missing resize icon. The six dots.

Issue: Image Mapper lacks undo / redo buttons. Although ctrl + z works. Actions are not reflected in History Palette either.

Bug: Even straight lines are anti-aliased when zoomed in on in Image Mapper.


DIALOGUES:

Issue: All dialogues should have selectable text. (Most applications have this problem, but it's easy to solve.)

Wish: Presets in Resize dialogue.

Wish: Presets in Canvas Size dialogue.

Wish: 'Show all' option under View | Toolbars and Palettes would be great for people with enough screen-space.

Issue: Dialogues take focus, when there's no need to. For instance Preferences. Here, if we cannot get it focus-free, at least drop in an Apply button. Having to open dialog, make changes, close it, look at changes, open it again, change again then close again is too much work. (Most applications have this problem, but it's easy to solve.)

Bug: Customize takes semi-focus.

Issue: Preferences | Help doesn't work. Neither button or F1.

Issue: Preferences doesn't have Apply button.


GENERAL:

Issue: Speed is down by about 30% in general on large files from X8.

Issue: Network, as in other computers, is missing from Navigation Quick Search.

Wish: Tab could toggle all Toolbars and Palettes.

Wish: Option for Instant Effects to include all layers.

Wish: 'Yes to all' option in batch progress overwrite prompt.

Issue: When dragging an image from Windows Explorer to PSP, PSP does not take focus. Thus one must click PSP to start working on the image.

Wish: Poster printing.

Wish: Panorama stitching.

Wish: Combine images. (Like in having two images, and just paste one to the left, right, top or bottom of the other.)

Wish: All the lovely icons are gone from the menus. I want them back please. (I know they can be added manually one by one. Almost more irritating than if it was impossible.)

Wish: Guide presets. Such as image cut in half, fourth, eight, x, y, x + y.

Wish: Diagonal guides.

Wish: 'Own scripts' could be a category under Batch Process | Script.

Issue: PPI of images changes from for instance 300 to 299.999 almost always.

Wish: Option to draw circle etc. from center.

Wish: Functions for symmetrical drawing. For instance a clock. Mirror drawing effect and such.

Wish: Export PDF.

Wish: Smart-objects. Like Flash has. When you change one, all copies change too.

Wish: When moving a selection Shift should restrict moving to horizontal and vertical movement. And not allow angular movement.

Wish: Zoom in Overview palette should control Overview, not the actual image. 100% size is especially important.

Wish: 10 recently used files as max is way too little. Go for 50 max. Keep 10 as default.

Wish: Option to have Toolbars and Palettes snap to eachother.

Wish: Guides, adding, moving, deleting, etc. should be included in History.

Bug: For instance Save As Dialogue is resizable. Export PNG Dialogue is not. This inconsistency is found all over the product. Batch Process Dialogue is not resizable.

Issue: Toolbars have easy-drag. Palettes don't. Please add easy-drag to Toolbars.

Issue: Tool Options is missing from View | Toolbars.

Wish: More short-keys please. I add for instance | for Sharpen. W for fit to window. Alt + G for Guides.

Bug: Black background color is not black.
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Re: Wishlist for PaintShop Pro X10

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Not likely to happen, but I want to be able to set my text parameters before putting down text like has been done in every version of PSP ever. I can't think of a valid reason to use the previous text settings on a new image, then having to change them. You can't script any text insertion in X9, the settings are wrong.
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Re: Wishlist for PaintShop Pro X10

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ADonahoo wrote:Not likely to happen, but I want to be able to set my text parameters before putting down text like has been done in every version of PSP ever. I can't think of a valid reason to use the previous text settings on a new image, then having to change them. You can't script any text insertion in X9, the settings are wrong.
This seems to have been fixed in the latest patch. :)

Corel PaintShop Pro X9 Update 1 Release Notes
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Fixed character display issues for template descriptions and currency symbols.
Text presets: Resolved issues with preset selection (incorrect preset applied), live preview (keyboard navigation), and the active area for the Download button.
New From Template: Fixed duplication issue.
Pspimage format: Updated X9 Options (compatibility list).
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Re: Wishlist for PaintShop Pro X10

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mc_peko wrote:
ADonahoo wrote:Not likely to happen, but I want to be able to set my text parameters before putting down text like has been done in every version of PSP ever. I can't think of a valid reason to use the previous text settings on a new image, then having to change them. You can't script any text insertion in X9, the settings are wrong.
This seems to have been fixed in the latest patch. :)

Corel PaintShop Pro X9 Update 1 Release Notes
Issues addressed

Fixed character display issues for template descriptions and currency symbols.
Text presets: Resolved issues with preset selection (incorrect preset applied), live preview (keyboard navigation), and the active area for the Download button.
New From Template: Fixed duplication issue.
Pspimage format: Updated X9 Options (compatibility list).

No, I thought that's what it meant so I tested it; it's still the same as it was before. If you change your text settings (font, font size, and anti-aliasing), it reverts back to what was there before as soon as you click on the image.
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ADonahoo wrote:No, I thought that's what it meant so I tested it; it's still the same as it was before. If you change your text settings (font, font size, and anti-aliasing), it reverts back to what was there before as soon as you click on the image.
Not for me. Works as one would expect here. I've read some people experience what you describe though.
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Re: Wishlist for PaintShop Pro X10

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mc_peko wrote:
ADonahoo wrote:No, I thought that's what it meant so I tested it; it's still the same as it was before. If you change your text settings (font, font size, and anti-aliasing), it reverts back to what was there before as soon as you click on the image.
Not for me. Works as one would expect here. I've read some people experience what you describe though.
Well, dang it! I was told that was a feature, but I don't know why anyone would want that.
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I stand to be corrected, but if you lay down text and then change the parameters and then click on the image the cursor will appear at the end of the text you just laid down and the parameters will revert to the ones you set for that text.

If you lay down text and then press Enter to move the cursor down to another line and then change your parameters and then click on the image where the new line is then the parameters should remain as you have just set them.

At least that's how it works with X7.
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JoeB wrote:I stand to be corrected, but if you lay down text and then change the parameters and then click on the image the cursor will appear at the end of the text you just laid down and the parameters will revert to the ones you set for that text.

If you lay down text and then press Enter to move the cursor down to another line and then change your parameters and then click on the image where the new line is then the parameters should remain as you have just set them.

At least that's how it works with X7.

That's not the point; it still works this way. I want to set the parameters before I put down any text like I have always done. I don't want to change them afterwards. I don't want to put the very large text I used on the last image on a new small image and then have to change it. Am I the only one having this problem? It has made X9 unusable for me.
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Re: Wishlist for PaintShop Pro X10

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You're not the only one, it is a feature. It is how Corel made it to work. They thought it would be an improvement to let you change any text element without having to expressly enter text edit mode. Now, there is one way to avoid this problem but only one.

You must have a raster layer selected. If you have a raster layer selected then you can edit the properties before putting text down. Which means that you don't have to add text with the previous settings to a new image before changing the settings, provided you don't have a vector layer selected.

If you have a vector layer selected one of two things will happen when you change the text options 1) It'll take the first available text layer and start editing its properties or it'll create a blank text object to house the new properties if there are too many text objects to choose from.
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LeviFiction wrote:You're not the only one, it is a feature. It is how Corel made it to work. They thought it would be an improvement to let you change any text element without having to expressly enter text edit mode. Now, there is one way to avoid this problem but only one.

You must have a raster layer selected. If you have a raster layer selected then you can edit the properties before putting text down. Which means that you don't have to add text with the previous settings to a new image before changing the settings, provided you don't have a vector layer selected.

If you have a vector layer selected one of two things will happen when you change the text options 1) It'll take the first available text layer and start editing its properties or it'll create a blank text object to house the new properties if there are too many text objects to choose from.
Sorry Levi, I don't understand what you are saying. When I click an image with the text tool active, a blank vector layer is created on top of the current raster layer which you always have to select to put anything on top of it. Getting to text edit mode is not such a hassle that it needed to be changed, especially when they put editing text above actually entering text. I still don't know why anyone would want to do it this way. I guess I'm in the minority.
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