Friend has a Hitachi DVD camcorder but the files on the RAM disc are in some UDF type of format.
I'm wondering if he uses the "Import DVD-Video or DVD-VR files ... " under the Add Media section of MF, perhaps the files on camera might be useable. Currently they can't be viewed on used on the PC.
an example of a file on the disc is VR_VIDEO.VRO
He doesn't have MF and I don't have his camera so we can't simple try it.
Thanks very much.
Will the DVD-VR mode see Hitachi DVDcam files ?
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heinz-oz
A trial version for him or a combined effort of both of you on your machine would soon fix that, right?
I'm a firm believer (may be wrong though but don't care) that cameras which record on disk are a gimmick when it comes to NLE editing and high quality expectations. I won't use them even if they gave one to me, sorry.
I'm a firm believer (may be wrong though but don't care) that cameras which record on disk are a gimmick when it comes to NLE editing and high quality expectations. I won't use them even if they gave one to me, sorry.
I totally agree. I would never recommend a DVD/hardrive camera for anyone wanting to any sort of editing. I've had nothing but trouble in the past tring to work with MPEG2. All of my work is done in DV.
Unfortunately he bought the camera before I could warn him but he is happy to put the videos straight to DVD with perhaps a menu and a chapter or two.
The problem he finds himself in is that he can't do a thing with the file the camera creates on the RAM discs. Obviously a DVD-R disc would be a different matter.
I'm just wondering if the camera might fall under the DVD-VR catergory when recording onto RAM.
Cheers
Unfortunately he bought the camera before I could warn him but he is happy to put the videos straight to DVD with perhaps a menu and a chapter or two.
The problem he finds himself in is that he can't do a thing with the file the camera creates on the RAM discs. Obviously a DVD-R disc would be a different matter.
I'm just wondering if the camera might fall under the DVD-VR catergory when recording onto RAM.
Cheers
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maddrummer3301
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>I'm a firm believer (may be wrong though but don't care) that cameras which record on disk
>are a gimmick when it comes to NLE editing and high quality expectations. I won't use them
>even if they gave one to me, sorry.
They aren't geared for NLE yet, but the quality? The newer Sony units are using a 1/3 CCD.
What size is your CCD? The larger the better. The quality of the newer units is excellent.
The Sony and Panasonic units cleanup the picture before compressing it.
One of my JVC DV cams uses a 1/6 CCD. The video isn't that bad from it.
MovieFactory3 and 4 are geared for importing the files from a dvd camcorder or dvd desktop
recorder. MF3 started advertising this feature with it's release. That's what all the -VR stuff is
in the Splash screen menus and also an option when encoding.
All the dvd camcorders can record in the -VR format. That format was designed to be
cut/split and also for extracting sections out of the disk and working with the mpeg2
streams. Not actually direct editing of the video samples (the actual video).
But, if your editing mpeg2 files (which so many people do) and that's your method the
dvd camcorder is a better choice than DV. Many people are using a DV cam and going
directly to mpeg, then performing all their editing in mpeg. For them that's the way to go.
(Along with the problems of audio sync etc.)
Scott,
The VR_VIDEO.VRO is the MAIN movie file or rather the "Container" file that holds all the
Mpeg2 video's. You don't finalize a dvd-ram, they are re-writable upto 100,000 times. If your
computer dvd-reader can read ram-disks you can play the dvd directly using any software
player "Power-dvd, windvd, Ulead dvd player). You can copy the minidisc to the harddrive
and import it from the harddisk into MF4 using the "Import dvd/dvd-vr disk" or leave the
disk in the reader and access it directly to import. MF4 has a slight problem with that
module on my macine so I would copy the dvd to the harddisk and import it from the
harddisk. That's what tech-support came back with.
Hope this helps,
MD
DV.avi is true frame for frame time-stamping etc. The best. My choice is
capturing DV and converting to mpeg2. Using DV is the only way you can time-stamp
the video along with using Smtpe time code for syncing external devices and multiple audio
tracks along with midi (that's where the smpte time-code also comes in). Smpte transmitts
the exact timing information of the dv.avi file.
>are a gimmick when it comes to NLE editing and high quality expectations. I won't use them
>even if they gave one to me, sorry.
They aren't geared for NLE yet, but the quality? The newer Sony units are using a 1/3 CCD.
What size is your CCD? The larger the better. The quality of the newer units is excellent.
The Sony and Panasonic units cleanup the picture before compressing it.
One of my JVC DV cams uses a 1/6 CCD. The video isn't that bad from it.
MovieFactory3 and 4 are geared for importing the files from a dvd camcorder or dvd desktop
recorder. MF3 started advertising this feature with it's release. That's what all the -VR stuff is
in the Splash screen menus and also an option when encoding.
All the dvd camcorders can record in the -VR format. That format was designed to be
cut/split and also for extracting sections out of the disk and working with the mpeg2
streams. Not actually direct editing of the video samples (the actual video).
But, if your editing mpeg2 files (which so many people do) and that's your method the
dvd camcorder is a better choice than DV. Many people are using a DV cam and going
directly to mpeg, then performing all their editing in mpeg. For them that's the way to go.
(Along with the problems of audio sync etc.)
Scott,
The VR_VIDEO.VRO is the MAIN movie file or rather the "Container" file that holds all the
Mpeg2 video's. You don't finalize a dvd-ram, they are re-writable upto 100,000 times. If your
computer dvd-reader can read ram-disks you can play the dvd directly using any software
player "Power-dvd, windvd, Ulead dvd player). You can copy the minidisc to the harddrive
and import it from the harddisk into MF4 using the "Import dvd/dvd-vr disk" or leave the
disk in the reader and access it directly to import. MF4 has a slight problem with that
module on my macine so I would copy the dvd to the harddisk and import it from the
harddisk. That's what tech-support came back with.
Hope this helps,
MD
DV.avi is true frame for frame time-stamping etc. The best. My choice is
capturing DV and converting to mpeg2. Using DV is the only way you can time-stamp
the video along with using Smtpe time code for syncing external devices and multiple audio
tracks along with midi (that's where the smpte time-code also comes in). Smpte transmitts
the exact timing information of the dv.avi file.
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