Corel Video Studio x9 The problem of shift of the cursor

[Dmitry]

"The problem of shift of the cursor after the removal of the video fragment."
Guys, why when in the timeline cut the clip, the cursor is not moved to the beginning of the fragment. That is, the video was cut into two parts , the first part is removed and in its place is shifted to another piece of video, but the cursor stays in place and does not move in the beginning of a new fragment.
(Installed version Video studio Trial x9 64bit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA3PTQh ... e=youtu.be

Sorry,I don't know English and the problem will try to Express in another video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9Ds9Zh ... e=youtu.be
the video is a bit boring, but watch to the end

[asik1]

I'm sorry I don't have X9 now as I have system problem ( I will restore only after I finish my current project ), but I do have X7 and it does jump to clip heads. As your YT is mute, I don't understand how you select your clips/split, do you use shortcuts? As soon as I select a segment to delete, the scrubber goes to it's head.

[lata]

Hi
Your YT video is a little fast for my brain to take in all the problems you are experiencing.
Not sure I understand your problem.
OK
Take the first clip from the library and place on the top track
The clip is short at 5 seconds ish.
With the clip selected…highlighted with yellow trim handles
Place the curser at 2 seconds and cut with the scissors.
The clip is cut into two sections, now you have two clips, the second section is selected highlighted with the curser placed on the first frame of that clip.
If you now select the first clip the curser again is placed on the first frame of that clip.
Delete that clip and the curser remains in position with all clips on the right moving left to fill the gap. There can be no gaps on the top track.

With the Project selected the yellow trim handles do not show.
Place the curser at 2 seconds and cut with the scissors.
The clip is cut into two sections, now you have two clips, neither of the clips are selected
but the curser is placed on the first frame of the second clip, at the cut point.
Clicking each clip will identify the cut position.
If you now select the first clip the curser again is placed on the first frame of that clip.

What problem do you have with that?

Some details using the scissors and trim bar below the preview screen may help understanding what is happening, hope this does not confuse the issue.
http://lata.me.uk/corel/trimbar/trim_bar.htm


Maybe I misunderstand what you expect to happen?

[BrianCee]

Sorry Trevor - but what you have described is the way previous versions of Videostudio work - it is NOT the way X9 works

try your procedure in X9 and you will see that when you click on the first clip the cursor does not move to the start of the clip - it stays where it is at the two second point.

deleting the first clip then makes all the top track move left - but the cursor still stays at 2 seconds

although I don't understand why Dmitry has a problem with that - for years users have been complaining that the cursor jumps about by itself when editing - now in X9 it stays still - most will be pleased by that.


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[lata]

Hi
Thanks Brian
Well not a lot of difference, and certainly did not notice when testing.
The main difference I see is when selecting the 1st, the 2nd then 3rd clip etc. the curser uses the first frame of each clip.

Now select in reverse 3rd, then 2nd then 1st
I had expected the curser to be in first frame as X8 but seems to use the last frame X9?

But all other curser positions seem same as X8
“deleting the first clip then makes all the top track move left - but the cursor still stays at 2 seconds” does that for X8

Like you I don’t see it as a problem, guess its what we get used to.

[BrianCee]

But all other curser positions seem same as X8
“deleting the first clip then makes all the top track move left - but the cursor still stays at 2 seconds” does that for X8

not for me it isn't - in order to delete the first clip you have to select it - the minute you select it in X8 the cursor jumps to the start of the clip - it does not stay at the cut position as X9 does

[lata]

Hi Brian

Well we keep finding these differences, I wonder if it is Windows related as that’s the only difference in our programs?

I add the first three library video samples to the timeline.
Choose Project Playback.
Set digital clock to move curser to 2 sec
Click first clip to select, curser remains at 2 sec
Delete clip
Curser at 2 sec

[BrianCee]

Well I see exactly the same as Dmitry

and you didn't cut the clip according to your last post - you are not using the same procedure as the problem

so do you not see the difference ? - in both X8 and then X9 I simply put the first sample in the timeline - cut it at two seconds - and deleted the left segment - I then see the following

X8 - note the cursor is hard at the beginning of the timeline

X9 - note that the cursor stays at 2 seconds

[lata]

Hi Brian

Thanks for the images, yes I see the same effect as you.

As I said this was not noticed during testing, when selecting a clip to the left the curser selects the last frame of the selected clip not the first,
Whereas X8 selects the first frame each time a clip is selected.

[Dmitry]

Hi
Your YT video is a little fast for my brain to take in all the problems you are experiencing.
Not sure I understand your problem.
OK
Take the first clip from the library and place on the top track
The clip is short at 5 seconds ish.
With the clip selected…highlighted with yellow trim handles
Place the curser at 2 seconds and cut with the scissors.
The clip is cut into two sections, now you have two clips, the second section is selected highlighted with the curser placed on the first frame of that clip.
If you now select the first clip the curser again is placed on the first frame of that clip.
Delete that clip and the curser remains in position with all clips on the right moving left to fill the gap. There can be no gaps on the top track.

With the Project selected the yellow trim handles do not show.
Place the curser at 2 seconds and cut with the scissors.
The clip is cut into two sections, now you have two clips, neither of the clips are selected
but the curser is placed on the first frame of the second clip, at the cut point.
Clicking each clip will identify the cut position.
If you now select the first clip the curser again is placed on the first frame of that clip.

What problem do you have with that?

Some details using the scissors and trim bar below the preview screen may help understanding what is happening, hope this does not confuse the issue.
http://lata.me.uk/corel/trimbar/trim_bar.htm


Maybe I misunderstand what you expect to happen?

Sorry. I so want to explain everything properly, but I don't know English. I'd rather shoot the video again, and show the problem.

[Dmitry]

Sorry Trevor - but what you have described is the way previous versions of Videostudio work - it is NOT the way X9 works

try your procedure in X9 and you will see that when you click on the first clip the cursor does not move to the start of the clip - it stays where it is at the two second point.

deleting the first clip then makes all the top track move left - but the cursor still stays at 2 seconds

although I don't understand why Dmitry has a problem with that - for years users have been complaining that the cursor jumps about by itself when editing - now in X9 it stays still - most will be pleased by that.


...

Imagine the first fragment with a duration of five to ten minutes, and then there are many small pieces of video from the first clip I cut off 8 minutes and remove. The cursor remains in place, but everything else is shifting video without cursor, it is a problem.
I'd rather do the video again.

[Dmitry]

Sorry Trevor - but what you have described is the way previous versions of Videostudio work - it is NOT the way X9 works

try your procedure in X9 and you will see that when you click on the first clip the cursor does not move to the start of the clip - it stays where it is at the two second point.

deleting the first clip then makes all the top track move left - but the cursor still stays at 2 seconds

although I don't understand why Dmitry has a problem with that - for years users have been complaining that the cursor jumps about by itself when editing - now in X9 it stays still - most will be pleased by that.


...

Sorry,I don't know English and the problem will try to Express in another video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9Ds9Zh ... e=youtu.be
the video is a bit boring, but watch to the end

[Dmitry]

Hi
Your YT video is a little fast for my brain to take in all the problems you are experiencing.
Not sure I understand your problem.
OK
Take the first clip from the library and place on the top track
The clip is short at 5 seconds ish.
With the clip selected…highlighted with yellow trim handles
Place the curser at 2 seconds and cut with the scissors.
The clip is cut into two sections, now you have two clips, the second section is selected highlighted with the curser placed on the first frame of that clip.
If you now select the first clip the curser again is placed on the first frame of that clip.
Delete that clip and the curser remains in position with all clips on the right moving left to fill the gap. There can be no gaps on the top track.

With the Project selected the yellow trim handles do not show.
Place the curser at 2 seconds and cut with the scissors.
The clip is cut into two sections, now you have two clips, neither of the clips are selected
but the curser is placed on the first frame of the second clip, at the cut point.
Clicking each clip will identify the cut position.
If you now select the first clip the curser again is placed on the first frame of that clip.

What problem do you have with that?

Some details using the scissors and trim bar below the preview screen may help understanding what is happening, hope this does not confuse the issue.
http://lata.me.uk/corel/trimbar/trim_bar.htm


Maybe I misunderstand what you expect to happen?

Sorry,I don't know English and the problem will try to Express in another video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9Ds9Zh ... e=youtu.be
the video is a bit boring, but watch to the end

[BrianCee]

Sorry but all the videos in the world will not make me see why you see this as a problem - yes X9 is different to previous versions - but why is that a problem - after cutting and deleting just move the cursor to where you want it - WHY is it a problem ?

[Terfyn]

It is clearly not a problem or fault in X9. It is just a way of doing things. We have to accept the programming teams approach to any action and live with it even if we as individual users may not agree with it. IMO the approach used in X9 is totally logical.