16:9 Problem with MF4

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luhma

16:9 Problem with MF4

Post by luhma »

Hi,

I'm new to this topic. I checked all regarding entries in this BB but found no proper answer. I use the "Filmbrennerei 4" (which is actually MovieFactory, afaik). I recorded Widescreen-Movies via digital-TV onto my harddisk and tried to burn them with MF4. I choose the HQ-16:9-DVD-Template but the only thing thats 16:9 is the menu. When I watch the movies on my PC, they are in widescreen-format... Can anyone help?

PS: The manual didn't help either...

best regards,
Marco :cry:
ploggy
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Post by ploggy »

Open the Project Settings and Make sure they are in 16:9 mode.

Check the properties of your (right click > media clip prop.) and see if 16:9 is indicated.
Who? Me?
luhma

Strange...

Post by luhma »

Thanks ploggy for the quick answer... I just got home and checked the ratio
indicated at the mediaclip-properties and that was strange... It says 4:3! Might be because the File starts with some news-show from the TV-Station and then the movies is in 16:9. When I watch the MPEG-File with a viewer (Realplayer, you name it) it then does switch to 16:9 as soon as the movie starts... but not MF4... First I had the idea to cut the movie with MF4 so only the 16:9 part is left but unfortunately it still says 4:3...

Any Idea?

Marco
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Post by maddrummer3301 »

The video file is probably letterboxed 4:3 aspect ratio.
Keep your project at 4:3 aspect ratio settings.
See if that works.

MD
luhma

???

Post by luhma »

Well, thats what i did in the first place. The problem is that the 16:9-Movie will be squeezed to 4:3. All the things in the movie are very "slim". Long faces and stuff. Which looks quite funny for a couple of minutes. :wink:

In fact, its annoying. I guess MF4 is probably reading the aspect ratio just in the beginning of the file and is not able to see changes within the file... :roll:
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Post by maddrummer3301 »

I would try this since your using MF4.
Also, maybe a good idea to apply the latest patch 4.2 just released
before continuing. Make sure to reboot windows after the patch.

I just converted a 15 minute 4:3 to 16:9 and it took about 3-4 minutes
using smart-render.

Mark down the video attributes by right-clicking on the file and
select "Properties"
Then hit the export button on the left of the screen & select "Customize"
Give the file a name and select "Options"
In the "Option" screen set to 16:9 & correct framesize.
Then on the next screen "Compression" set the video bit rate exactly
the same as the video your converting.
Same with the audio settings.
Export the video so it's converted to 16:9.
Then remove the original video on the timeline.
Restart or reset the project for 16:9 aspect ratio and import the
new rendered file.

By making the video_bit_rate and audio equal to the source material
will make the re-render go very fast because MF will see it doesn't
need to re-encode the video to a different bit-rate. It scans over it.

As an experiment later set the bit-rate to about 3000 or quite different
than the original material. You will see how slow the conversion will take.

Hope this helps,

MD
luhma

One jpg says more than 1000 words... ;-)

Post by luhma »

Image

this is what happened after exporting it to 16:9... as you can see just long faces... just like mine :shock:

Whatever I try to do to burn it on DVD the movie stays 4:3... When I watch the original file on PC its 16:9... No exporting seems to help nor changing the ratio....

Well, I guess there is probably a problem with the german version of MF4 (which is called "Filmbrennerei 4") and that there is no update available for this (just 4.-something fixing only some Hardware-problems...)

regards,
Marco
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