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???JoeB wrote: @Photodrawken seems to have the most problems ....
--photodrawken wrote:???JoeB wrote: @Photodrawken seems to have the most problems ....
I suggest you carefully read what is written before posting comments.
FYI, I stopped using PSP over two years ago when I discovered PhotoLine. In fact, when I bought a new computer a few months ago I never bothered to install my copy of PSP X5, and never will....
Sorry, I mis-spoke! I meant @Pathfinder. I think my older brain remembered it started with a P and just popped your name out. I will edit my post accordingly.photodrawken wrote:???JoeB wrote: @Photodrawken seems to have the most problems ....
I suggest you carefully read what is written before posting comments.
FYI, I stopped using PSP over two years ago when I discovered PhotoLine. In fact, when I bought a new computer a few months ago I never bothered to install my copy of PSP X5, and never will....
I don't think I'll change to Win 10 just to experience the issues.Bobby55 wrote:Joe B is missing the point.
The in program marketing ads are an annoyance and in your face, acceptable maybe in shareware but they should not be present in a paid for licenced application, even more annoying when you already have the advertised items! The "shop" should be hidden in help for those who wish it.
As for the vanishing text and jumping boxes you do not encounter, maybe if you moved from win 8.1 to win 10 you would see more issues, I had no problem with win 7 on the same machine I am currently using.
Actually, though, after another careful look at the posts, it appears that the only people posting in this thread that use Win 8.1 are me and @azakihun. And, like me, the only issue she seems to have with SP1 is the problem with the advert on the brush palette and the buttons disappearing when resizing that palette, which I already addressed in my previous post. Not sure if she has other "in your face" advertising as reported by you and others, but all I can say is that I don't have that - and as I don't shoot RAW I don't have Aftershot.I have to agree with Joelle's post. Having read many of your posts in various threads I was aware that you were a PhotoLine advocate but was not aware that (a) your last experience with PSP was with X5 and (b) that was over 2 years ago and you hadn't used it since. The impression left (to me, at least) was that you still used PSP to some degree even if you preferred PhotoLine for most of your work. The revelation that you are not, in fact, a PSP user, haven't been one for more than 2 years, and never intend to be one again, now makes it appear that your main purpose in posting to these forums is to push PhotoLine.photodrawken wrote: FYI, I stopped using PSP over two years ago when I discovered PhotoLine. In fact, when I bought a new computer a few months ago I never bothered to install my copy of PSP X5, and never will....
Actually, my comments in this discussion thread have been to the general issues of experiences with Corel products, and to the general questions (first raised by others) of exploring alternatives to PSP.Joelle wrote: [if you don't use PaintShop Pro, might I enquire why you are still commenting on the software.
Wrong, again. If you have read my posts in this forum, then you should have understood that I don't address questions about solving issues with PSP. My comments have been exclusively related to general image editing, applicable for any image editing program.JoeB wrote: Having read many of your posts in various threads
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I suspect that most people posting for help with issues they are having with the program would like to have those issues addressed by members who have at least some recent experience with PSP rather than someone who hasn't even touched it in over 2 years.
Here Win 7pro SP1 64 bit, I observe none of the issues mentioned in this thread with PSPX8 SP1, either its 64 bit or its 32 bit versions (the latter only used with some old 32 bit only plugins).JoeB wrote:If that's the case then it's not "system specific" in the normally used sense of that term but relatively OS specific (i.e., works with 8.1, mostly works with 10, doesn't play very well at all with Win 7) and that does indeed show a lack of sufficient testing with various OS's by Corel and they need to address it
Thanks for your feedback with this info, particularly because Win 7 users seem to have reported the most issues. Every bit helps, and your info (and that of MarkZ, for example) do continue to point to the problem being at least partly system specific in the usual sense of the term, although this could be exacerbated by the patch also not having been rigorously tested on various operating system platforms. As I have said in several posts, it is MHO that the problems are to at least some extent system specific, regardless of OS, as evidenced by people with the same OS having either no issues at all or having different issues than other people have using the same OS.J Rosenfeld wrote:Here Win 7pro SP1 64 bit, I observe none of the issues mentioned in this thread with PSPX8 SP1, either its 64 bit or its 32 bit versions (the latter only used with some old 32 bit only plugins).JoeB wrote:If that's the case then it's not "system specific" in the normally used sense of that term but relatively OS specific (i.e., works with 8.1, mostly works with 10, doesn't play very well at all with Win 7) and that does indeed show a lack of sufficient testing with various OS's by Corel and they need to address it
No, not necessarily wrong at all. In my statement that you quoted I specifically refer to people "posting for help with issues they are having with the program, meaning PSP", not to people who have questions about general image editing. In the latter cases, most posts are with regard to how to achieve certain results when editing an image (what I am assuming you mean by "general image editing") but their queries are with regard to doing it specifically with PSP tools. And the actual way to achieve those results with PSP are not applicable for any image editing program, because different programs have different tools or, when the tools are similar, they often have different names, are found in different menus, etc.photodrawken wrote:Wrong, again. If you have read my posts in this forum, then you should have understood that I don't address questions about solving issues with PSP. My comments have been exclusively related to general image editing, applicable for any image editing program.JoeB wrote: Having read many of your posts in various threads
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I suspect that most people posting for help with issues they are having with the program would like to have those issues addressed by members who have at least some recent experience with PSP rather than someone who hasn't even touched it in over 2 years.
Your intentions might be fine but, like Joelle, I find it a bit strange. I own Photoshop CS6 but haven't had a need to use it for anything I do since I moved from Jasc's PSP9 to Corel's X7. And because I don't use it I haven't felt the least inclination to peruse the Photoshop forums (or any other forum dedicated to other photo editing programs) looking for posts from people who intend to ditch PS so as to advise them where they might find something that they could use as a replacement, or looking for posts from people who use PS (or another program) but want - or seemingly could use - advice as to better or less expensive add-ons, etc. As a user of PSP it just seems natural for me to provide that help in the forum dedicated to the program I do use with other PSP users and giving that advice to them when I run across their queries and I might be able to be of help. It just doesn't seem natural for me to post in forums dedicated to programs I don't even use and to provide advice in those forums, which is likely available anyway from actual user members (as you even mention is done here by other members who actually use PSP).photodrawken wrote:When I've mentioned using PhotoLine, it's in the same vein as others who have mentioned also using Photoshop, or RawTherapee, or XnViewMP, or Topaz Labs softwasre, or DxO, or .... In other words, many people don't limit themselves to using one and only one program.
When someone states (without any prompting from me) that they intend to abandon PSP in favor of Adobe's products, I think it's a genuine service to make them aware that they can save beaucoup money by not paying a perpetual monthly rental fee to Adobe, if the features of PhotoLine suit their needs.
Really the missing text is my one and only problem this gets me the title of "seems to have the most problems" in your mind?JoeB wrote:Sorry, I mis-spoke! I meant @Pathfinder. I think my older brain remembered it started with a P and just popped your name out. I will edit my post accordingly.photodrawken wrote:???JoeB wrote: @Photodrawken seems to have the most problems ....
I suggest you carefully read what is written before posting comments.
FYI, I stopped using PSP over two years ago when I discovered PhotoLine. In fact, when I bought a new computer a few months ago I never bothered to install my copy of PSP X5, and never will....
