VSX6p: text in Overlay track shows up in 2 places.

[Carroll]

Evening Members.

The project I'm working on has developed a problem I can't understand. I have applied a text only message on an overlay track. The message has 5 words in it. It is located at the first of the video, overlaying the Title Tracks.

It has animation applied to it. The 5 words are spelled out 1 letter at a time starting from the left, finally ending with the full wording.

Now when I run the clip of that animation either in "clip" or "project", besides it running where I have it set to run (centre page), the text also shows up in the top right of the screen, outside the framed area, using the same animation as the one centred.

I can't seem to get rid of that mirrored text. When I delete the overlay track and redo it, the mirrored text is still there. I've right clicked for that menu and have gone through all the menus in the workspace but nothing there. Used "Help", but, no help there either. I tried many different words and configuration of words when searching, but, again, zip.

So does anyone one know why the mirrored text is there and how to get rid of it?

Carroll

[BrianCee]

When I delete the overlay track and redo it, the mirrored text is still there.

After you have deleted it and before you redo it is the additional text still there ?

does it still happen if you use the title track instead of an overlay track

have you you used one of the supplied animated titles - can you identify which one so we can try and replicate your problem - unfortunately they are all called 'Lorem Ipsum' so you will need to tell us row# position# plus a bit of a description.

You talk of "mirrored text" - does that mean the unwanted text is backwards

does this happen with other titles - or just the one - does it happen with titles you make yourself.

[Carroll]

Thank you for your reply Brian. I just knew there would be a test.

When I delete the overlay track and redo it, the mirrored text is still there.

After you have deleted it and before you redo it is the additional text still there ?
No it isn't.

does it still happen if you use the title track instead of an overlay track
Just tried it and yes it does.

have you you used one of the supplied animated titles - can you identify which one so we can try and replicate your problem - unfortunately they are all called 'Lorem Ipsum' so you will need to tell us row# position# plus a bit of a description.
No, I used the text animation in the "Attribute" options panel under the "Fly" animation. It places a single letter at a time, starting from the left, till the full word or sentence is finished, then, it's static for a second or so, then, it slides to the right and out of the frame.

You talk of "mirrored text" - does that mean the unwanted text is backwards
Sorry, poor choice of word. No, it isn't mirrored, it is basically a copy of the title that's positioned out of the frame. The one big difference is the letters in the copy don't stay. They just pop open, then close, as the next letter pops open and continues that pattern. They pop in unison with the title ones, except, none of the letters stay like they do in the title to form a word. The wayward text appears at about a 45 deg angle starting in the top right outside the frame. After about 12 letters and 2 spaces, the letters, go off the project window. There are still 15 letters and spaces left in the title.

does this happen with other titles - or just the one - does it happen with titles you make yourself.
No it doesn't, just this one and this is the first time it has ever happened.
I always use the animations that are available in VSP. Not that adventurous to make my own.

Carroll

[Ken Berry]

If you stop the entire project from playing, though having it let run through to a point where one of the 'phantom' letters appears, can you actually select (and delete) that letter? If so, then you could track and delete the others by similarly running the project and stopping it the instant another letter appears...

[asik1]

There is an old say, A picture is worth a thousand words. This thread is about there, will it not be better to give a screen shot?

[Carroll]

If you stop the entire project from playing, though having it let run through to a point where one of the 'phantom' letters appears, can you actually select (and delete) that letter? If so, then you could track and delete the others by similarly running the project and stopping it the instant another letter appears...

Hi Ken

No I can't. That was one of the first things I tried, thinking maybe if there were 2 actions, then, I could get the unwanted one, but, to no avail. Thought I might have a hidden title under the one in question or a hidden animation, but, couldn't find anything to hint at that. I have also tried to find if there was an offset I added somewhere that would move a copy of the text that far away or maybe shadow setting way out of whack, but, found nothing there also, at least for the shadow settings. Couldn't find any mention of off setting a line of text. I deleted the title again and retyped it and everything was still the same.

I'm just grasping at straws here, but, it seems that the title track it's self has it programmed into it, when you delete and retype, all he actions are still there and I don't have to set up any attributes for the animation.

I had also closed the project and didn't save the changes I had made before this came up but, when reopened it it was still there.
Carroll

[BrianCee]

Your comment rang a few bells Carroll - we did have another user with a very similar problem a short while ago - he was using one of the supplied "Lorem Ipsum" titles but after putting it in the timeline and then deleting it many of the animations remained - see if any thing in that topic works for you - find that topic here :- http://forum.corel.com/EN/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=55940

[Carroll]

Your comment rang a few bells Carroll - we did have another user with a very similar problem a short while ago - he was using one of the supplied "Lorem Ipsum" titles but after putting it in the timeline and then deleting it many of the animations remained - see if any thing in that topic works for you - find that topic here :- http://forum.corel.com/EN/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=55940

Thank you Brian. I will follow-up on the link Monday.
Carroll

[Carroll]

This is something I discovered last evening. In the working frame I pulled the title track box to the bottom left and also pushed it out of the frame until just the last half of the title was visible sticking out from the window's frame. Then I played it. There was yet another track above the one I have been trying to eliminate. It's letters popped and disappeared in unison with the original track and the 1st offset track.

The new one was the same offset distance and angle from the 1st one as the 1st one was from the original. It's very like some photos you see where the subject in front of the mirror is repeated to infinity in a continuous reflection in mirrors. Didn't explain it well, but, hope you can get the picture of what I'm describing.

I do find it frustrating that I can't gain access deeper into VSp6 at the roots level of a clip to deal with display problems like I can with other software.

Anyway, I guess I do have the alternative of starting from scratch and rebuild a new video. I shall carry on to see what I can find, if I can find anything, for a while longer. If not, I'll delete this one and start over.