Uploading to YouTube within Studio

[MikesMovies]

Hi guys.

I was looking forward to using the upload to YouTube function in Studio but when I went to use it it only offers 25fps upload formats!
YouTube supports 30 and 60 fps these days so this is very limiting.
Is this something Corel will fix or is there a way we can do it?

Thanks

Mike

[skier-hughes]

I've not tried uploading direct to Youtube from VS and can't at the moment as have just installed the latest win10 and no VS installation so far.
I'm suspecting it is looking at the type of project properties you have as 25fps and so offering that choice. If you have different project properties of say, 60fps does it then offer you that choice?

[MikesMovies]

I've not tried uploading direct to Youtube from VS and can't at the moment as have just installed the latest win10 and no VS installation so far.
I'm suspecting it is looking at the type of project properties you have as 25fps and so offering that choice. If you have different project properties of say, 60fps does it then offer you that choice?

Hi, yep that's what I thought, but no it makes no difference what you select it only offers 25fps for YouTube uploads. Seems rather odd really.
Not a big problem but an annoyance all the same.

[asik1]

You have a nice channel Mike, brings old memories ...
I don't understand your fuss about UT 30 or 60. If you shoot 25 you better keep it all the way and UT will also keep it as 25.
Why you bother at all to upload from VS? most of the guys here upload with a browser after rendering.

[lata]

Hi Mike

You are in the UK which uses Pal standards, the program has been installed to use Pal by default, so your standard templates will use 25fps including the YouTube templates.

You can convert / render your projects / videos to 30 fps or 60fps if that’s what you wish to do, that would be NTSC standards.
But you should retain your original video files frame rate which we assume is Pal standards.

Anyway using Upload to YouTube provides an option to “upload a file”
Change the radio button for Upload File.

[MikesMovies]

Hi Trevor

Of course I never thought of that.
I always upload in the same frame rate and aspect if I can as the original files, they were 30fps. Oddly my camera is set up for PAL and yet films in 30fps.

Cheers


Mike

[lata]

Hi Trevor
Oddly my camera is set up for PAL and yet films in 30fps.
Cheers
Mike

That is strange..
The problem with using Video Studio is that it renders your project and immediately starts to upload to YT giving you no chance to view the final video to check quality.
So I always create my own output file, then yes I could use Video Studio to upload the file.

[MikesMovies]

Tis a bit odd, but for HD it looks great! Here are the specs

http://www.digitalversus.com/digital-ca ... /test.html

And here my first video ever made with the camera and Studio 8x, still got tons to learn on both but quite pleased with the results.
This video was nearly 2GB in size, I have made a custom template now for 1920x1080 at 30fps and 10000kb instead of the 15000!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHg8VsUvTig


Cheers


Mike

[lata]

Hi Mike

Looks a nice camera, as for the frame rates you will have to manage them yourself and not use the default templates used in Video Studio.

First set your project properties to match your video files properties, that way the timeline will display 30fps not 25. The program should be able to do that for you…..

Go to Settings Preferences (F6) tick show messages when inserting……..
Start a new project
Add one of your files to the top timeline, hopefully you should receive a message to match the properties. Choose Details, what are the properties in the right hand panel, copy and paste the text to your post.

To render your video files use Share – Same as Project or Same as First clip.
That should use the original video properties.

Also
Go to Settings Movie Profile Manager.
Select the Format, I assume Mpeg4
Choose the Add option and browse for your original video file.
Give the template a name, that will create a new template again using your videos properties, the template will show via Share – Mpeg4 - profile list

[lata]

Hi Mike

I viewed the YouTube video, there does seem to be an annoying little judder.

I don’t know if that is my internet connection but would have thought that would be ok, the only other reason would be the frame rate being changed?

[asik1]

I agree with Trevor, the video is not pleasant to view.
The very shallow depth of field do not do it justice as well.
As my TV died 2 days ago, I watched it on my 19" computer screen ~2feet away and I stopped after 2 minutes.

[MikesMovies]

Hi guys

Info as requested:

MPEG-4 Files
24 bits, 1920 x 1080, 29.97 fps
Frame-based
H.264 High Profile Video: 23790 Kbps
48000 Hz, 16 Bit, Stereo
MPEG AAC Audio: 128 Kbps

Surprised re the comments about the quality of the upload.

Its details are:

Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom
File size : 1.74 GiB
Duration : 18mn 8s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 13.7 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2015-07-05 10:18:38
Tagged date : UTC 2015-07-05 10:18:38

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=15
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 18mn 8s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 13.5 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 15.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 30.000 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.217
Stream size : 1.71 GiB (99%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2015-07-05 10:18:38
Tagged date : UTC 2015-07-05 10:18:38
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 18mn 8s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 25.0 MiB (1%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2015-07-05 10:18:38
Tagged date : UTC 2015-07-05 10:18:38

My regular viewers have been very complimentary about this production.
However, I very much value your opinions and want to get this right so please feel free to suggest next options?

Thanks

[Ken Berry]

I'm afraid I have to chime in with Trevor. There is indeed a somewhat annoying judder throughout your video. Curiously enough, it does not appear in all scenes, although it is there in most. Whether it is enough to distract from the whole video is really a matter for how much the viewer notices it or can tolerate it. In scenes where there is no movement, there is no judder. Where the trains are moving slowly, the judder is less -- though in one or two slow moving scenes, the judder is not there at all. But like Trevor, I would have to think it has something to do with frame rate. I see that your camera does indeed film using 60 fps. So if you have made your video using 30 fps you have in effect thrown away half the frames, which again could produce that judder.

So I can only agree with Trevor that you should perhaps experiment with a shorter new project, and follow what he suggested, making sure "Show message when inserting first video clip" is ticked in Preferences. Then when you insert your first video and get the message, accept it and your Project Properties will now match those of the clip perfectly. Then when you are ready go to Share > Same As Project Properties.

[MikesMovies]

Hi

The clips from the camera have the following specs, I did not shoot in 60fps but used 30.

ormat : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42
File size : 78.6 MiB
Duration : 27s 227ms
Overall bit rate : 24.2 Mbps
Performer :
Encoded date : UTC 2015-07-03 11:29:56
Tagged date : UTC 2015-07-03 11:29:56
Copyright : Mike

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 27s 227ms
Bit rate : 24.1 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.387
Stream size : 78.1 MiB (99%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2015-07-03 11:29:56
Tagged date : UTC 2015-07-03 11:29:56
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 27s 221ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 128 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 424 KiB (1%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2015-07-03 11:29:56
Tagged date : UTC 2015-07-03 11:29:56




I have now followed the advice and set up profile manager for my cameras output as you see above, which should resolve some of what you are seeing I hope.
I had two cameras at work, for the ride on shots a mombius that shoots in 30fps 1080p.
I outputted the video
Using the following setting from Studio 8X:

Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom
File size : 1.74 GiB
Duration : 18mn 8s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 13.7 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2015-07-05 10:18:38
Tagged date : UTC 2015-07-05 10:18:38

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=15
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 18mn 8s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 13.5 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 15.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 30.000 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.217
Stream size : 1.71 GiB (99%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2015-07-05 10:18:38
Tagged date : UTC 2015-07-05 10:18:38
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 18mn 8s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 25.0 MiB (1%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2015-07-05 10:18:38
Tagged date : UTC 2015-07-05 10:18:38


Can anyone spot why there is this judder some are seeing? or is it a YouTube creation?


Thanks

[MikesMovies]

Hi chaps

Just an observation.

I just watched back the Studio 8X produced file and it is silky smooth.
Then when I watch the YouTube version I can see the slight judder mentioned! Certainly it is not as nice as the original file.
So, is this just the limitations of YouTube or do I need to be giving them a different file format in order that their transcoded version is smooth?

Thanks for all your help it means a lot and sorry for any delayed replies, I am recovering from stroke like symptoms and it takes me off my feet sometimes.
Don't want anyone to think me rude