Splitting Audio with Freeze Frame

[bgm1961]

Hi all,

I searched this forum back till 2010 for this question and did not find it previously asked...

When inserting a Freeze Frame, the pdf manual mentions a "Split Audio" check box in the Freeze Frame dialog box, but I can't find it. Where is that check box? (I'm assuming we're not talking about the normal "Split Audio" command, found in the Edit menu, which I'm familiar with).

Quoting the manual for Step 4 of inserting a Freeze Frame:
"Note: If you want to suspend audio on other tracks during the freeze, enable the Split Audio check box. This splits and suspends all audio-related tracks (voice, music, video overlays) for the duration of the freeze.".
But I don't see that Split Audio "check box". (Again, the normal Split Audio found in the Edit Menu is a command, not a "check box"). So am I missing it? Am I not doing something properly, from what you can tell from my post? If it is indeed missing, is the split audio check box a disconnect between the software developer and the writers?

Work Around: In the meantime, I discovered that if I split the audio from the video track using the "Split Audio" command, and then do a "Split Clip" on the audio clip at the same location where I intend to Freeze Frame the video track, FIRST, then Ripple Editing will create the appropriate split for me in the audio track. Regardless, the manual makes it sound like this is supposed to be automatically handled.

Thanks again!

[BrianCee]

Strange - do you not see the little check box down in the left corner - see below

[lata]

Hi Brian / bgm1961

I did a quick test, at first the Split Audio showed as your image but did not allow me to select.
I closed the panel and applied Split Audio to my clip.
Now Freeze Frame does not show the Split Audio check box, its gone?

Re-booted the program still no Split Audio?????
Maybe a reset will do the trick?

[asik1]

Guys, this freez screen is new only to X8.

[lata]

that's right

[lata]

Hi Guys

Post updated

If in Project mode Split Audio shows – Edit - Freeze Frame
In Clip mode no Split Audio shows?

The Split Audio box does not allow me to select it, so does not seem to work anyway?

[bgm1961]

Guys, thanks for the replies!

(BTW, I'm using X8).

Lata, yes, you're correct... the "Split Audio" check box DOES also appear for me when executing the Freeze Frame command while in "Project" mode. I didn't realize that as I typically access my editing commands with a right click on the target clip, which of course automatically switches the mode from "Project" to "Clip". And thusly I never saw the check box (see image below). But ANYWAY, it still doesn't work. So I guess that's the issue. It doesn't work when the audio is embedded in the video track, and it also doesn't work when the audio is split out into a audio track.

Again, as I mention in my OP, the only workaround I can find is to split-out the audio into a separate track, and then at the point where the freeze frame will be inserted, also cut the audio clip. Ensure Ripple Editing is enabled and THEN execute the Freeze Frame. This is the only way I've found for the audio track to be split for the Freeze Frame. In reality, this is the same as simply doing the process manually, but I thought the idea of the new Freeze Frame feature was to do that extra step for you.

Anyway, FWIW, here's an image of how the dialog box looks (when in "Clip" mode"). I also included the tracks below to show that there's no audio track split out. (Again when in "Project mode, the check box IS there as shown in Brian's image above but is disabled).

[lata]

Hi

Well the freeze frame does work….
It cuts the timeline, creates an image and adds the image to the timeline, that process done automatically.

Yep we used to do that manually.

What I don’t understand is why they tried to Split Audio.
I realise there is gonna be some issues with the audio when adding images, but why on earth Split Audio.

Leave the audio intact, if you need to mute then that can be done manually.

Maybe change the Split Audio tick box for a mute option.

[bgm1961]

Thanks for the reply. Yes, the Freeze Frame does work - like a charm. What I was trying to say in that portion of my reply which I think you were responding to, is why not enable the Split Audio feature - a feature which they at least attempted to include? IOW, in addition to the automatically inserting the freeze frame, why doesn't the software also go ahead and split the audio at the same time? That's the additional step which I was saying that used to be done manually but why not make it all automatic?

I realise there is gonna be some issues with the audio when adding images, but why on earth Split Audio.

I'm a little thick-headed so I may not be understanding your question/point...
Here's the editing situation I'm talking about: You've recorded a video with a voice track, and then later during editing you decide to freeze one of the frames for 5 or 6 seconds (perhaps you want to freeze the action for a few seconds so to display some text or graphic). During that freeze frame you certainly don't want the voice track to keep playing, even if muted. Otherwise of course it will be out of synch with the remainder of the video by the same number of seconds that you froze the frame.

At least in my mind, that's why I need to also split the audio when I insert a freeze frame. Or am I missing something? (Which is typical)!

Thanks!

[skier-hughes]

Split the clip, add still/freeze frame inbetween, if the audio is not split it will remian in sync with when it starts again.

[lata]

Hi

I think we are all singing from the same songbook, but my point is why bother with split audio when doing Freeze Frame, what advantage to split audio.
I think Corel may have left the Split Audio icon on that panel by mistake, after all it does not work.

The video and audio streams are embedded together.

What order do we do it in?

1 / If you cut the video, add an image the audio will remain with the video, in sync, there will be a pause in audio during the image playback.

You could then split audio for both video clips, but will playback same as above.

2 / If you first split audio, then cut video and add an image the audio will be out of sync with the last video portion.

Clearly some sound will be required over the image to retain continuity but split audio will not do that, not without realigning the audio clips.

As I say I don’t understand why its there?

[bgm1961]

OK, I STAND CORRECTED! You're correct that the Freeze Frame feature does indeed automatically split the audio if the audio is embedded in the video track. I may've wasted everyone's time here for not realizing that, as I assumed it wasn't the case from my earlier experience.

I had a situation where due to the way my transitions were working out, I had to insert a color clip between some scenes in order to implement a proper transition. Thusly I had to split the audio track for those scenes, so not to throw everything out of synch. Then for one of those scenes (with the audio split) is when I attempted to insert a Freeze Frame, expecting the audio (on it's separate track) to also split. When it didn't is when I checked the manual and discovered the wording about the "Split Audio" check box. Well assuming that was the solution to my problem and seeing that THAT didn't work is when I leapt post my question. I thusly apologize for harping on something that isn't a significant issue!

So again, when the audio is embedded in the frozen video clip, the program will suspend the audio. But when the audio is split into its own track, it will NOT suspend the audio automatically. Perhaps in this situation is where the "Split Audio" check box could work?

Anyway, no need to belabor this topic. Thanks again for all your input.

[lata]

Hi bgm1961

You have certainly not wasted any time, I did not realise the split audio was part of freeze frame, now we know it does not work, so thanks for that.

Split Audio does two things.
1 / creates a copy of the audio to the sound track
2 / mutes the video

To remove Split Audio
1 / delete the audio clip
2 / undo mute