Split By Scene-Digital 8

[Ken Berry]

I am afraid that I now have to withdraw what I wrote about my video from the analogue tapes playing in my Sony being split by scene during capture. Being the squirrel I am, I still have my old video editing computer from those days, and moreover, still have quite a few of my captured analogue-to-digital video stored on one of its hard drives. I just fired it up and found to my embarrassment that it appears that I was stopping and restarting the Sony to create separate files during the capture process. I was using WinDV (since I had assigned video names to the capture, with WinDV using that title but a succession of consecutive numbers for the individual files created). Initially, when I saw all these individual files I thought my statement about split by scene must have been correct. However, when I looked at some of them playing, I found that the end few seconds of one clip were repeated in the first few seconds of the next clip. This in turn leads me to believe I must have stopped the capture after one scene, then rewound the tape a little, and began capture of the second clip, and so on.

So I am very sorry to have been misleading -- though I would note that I was recalling the process I was using in 2006 (going by the date of creation of those clips!!) But Trevor and canuck above are correct.

Mind you, I still have no idea why WinDV doesn't even recognise your camera...

[hab]

Not remembering exactly what you did 9 years ago is understandable. Not what I wanted to hear but I guess I am stuck.
Looks like unless I go through the arduous task of stop/start as Ken did, I am stuck with one long file.

I have all my DV tapes moved to my hard drive (in folders by scene) but I now have over 100 Hi8, vhs & vhs-c tapes to move.
Am I doomed to one long file for each of these??????????????

Is there a video God who can save me?

[Ken Berry]

You might want to explore that DVSplit link I provided above, or the one suggested by asik... Mind you, I have never used either so have no idea what they do or how they operate...

[canuck]

I don't know of any program that captures digital video by scene detection on the fly. All the video is captured to one file and then the video is scanned and split into scenes. Only DV video (which is has a time stamp) can be split into into scenes (ie files) as it is captured.

[lata]

Hi Ken / canuck

Thanks for confirming that analogue recordings cannot be captured using Split by Scene.

Hab

Why don’t you split by scene after capture, do this in the library will create separate clips.
Drag each to the timeline, trim the bits you don’t need then file – Save Trimmed Video, that will save a new file to the working folder.
Half of your editing is done and you have a file of the good bits. Edit those at your leisure to complete the movie.

[BrianCee]

I think we all knew that it was not possible to split analogue video by scene on capture Trevor so that was a given and did not need confirming.

What was not clear to me was that even if that analogue is converted to Digital and captured by firewire then you still cannot split by scene - because the conversion to digital does not give a change in time code at scene changes or mark the digital stream in any way. that was the point I was not aware of and that is what has now been confirmed and makes clear to me and maybe others that converting an analogue tape to digital to capture it by firewire is not much of an advantage - might just as well continue to use my USB device

[lata]

Hi Brian

That advantage for me in connecting VHS analogue through the DV camera as pass-through is the quality.
Seems much better quality using the camera as a AV / DV converter than my USB device.

[BrianCee]

The important thing here is that hab has a definitive answer - even if it is not the one he wanted to hear.

[lata]

Hi

Well I don’t know what else to suggest, I said from the start that analogue recordings do not support Split by Scene, Hab recorded the tape using Hi8 and that’s an analogue camera.

Hab

You cannot capture tapes recorded by an analogue camera and use Split by Scene

[asik1]

well

[canuck]

What is that image supposed to show?

[hab]

All this input is very much appreciated. Looks like I will have to capture everything & split by scene after the fact.
As Brian said, I now know where I stand & that's the main thing.

I will try this (see below), as suggested by Trevor (thanks again Trevor);
"Why don’t you split by scene after capture, do this in the library will create separate clips.
Drag each to the timeline, trim the bits you don’t need then file – Save Trimmed Video, that will save a new file to the working folder.
Half of your editing is done and you have a file of the good bits. Edit those at your leisure to complete the movie."

If I do this (Save Trimmed Video), won't it be saved as a .vsp file, & not AVI that I can work with later if I want to use it outside VS?

[lata]

Hi hab

Saved Trimmed Video uses the properties of the clip you are editing.
That render should be relatively quick.

Not File Save or Save As, that will save the VSP.

[hab]

This looks very useful. The clips save quickly & individually in AVI format, giving me my most valued clips in a format I can use in the future, tucked away in a folder on my hard drive.
At least that is what it looks like to me. Am I right?

[lata]

Hi

They are tucked away as you put it to the working folder.
You can allocate a new working folder anywhere you wish.
Go to Preferences (F6) to set the working folder.

Once you have completed all clips you should be able to delete the original.
But make sure you have finished first.


If you wish to find any file, right click a clip and Locate on Computer