What's the file size from an 90mins 8mm Sony Camcorder tape?

carrot_milk · Post by **carrot_milk** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:03 am

Guys, I'm totally new to Ulead MovieFactory but my supervisor wants me to convert a video using MovieFactory and burn it into a DVD. Before that, he asked me to check the file size it would take up since my pc may not have enough storage space.

He said, he has converted a file before and when the file was on his pc, a 9 mins worth of video took up 2GB of space. Right now, he needs me to convert 90 mins of tape. Will it take up 20GB or are there any other ways of calculating the file size?

Would really appreciate any help, thanks guys.

P.S - He said the tape is an 8 mm from a Sony Camcorder.

Philander · Post by **Philander** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:15 am

If you have 980 minute video and you are going to create DVD, all you need to consider is the video bit rate.

Since DVD-Video is in MPEG-2 compression, you have about 2000 to 9800 video bit range to choose from.

From this matrix, you will have an idea what will be the output file size

MPEG-2, 720 x 480, LPCM or MPEG-audio in DVD-R (single layer, 4.4GB)

4000kbps - up to two hours in DVD - 4.2GB (approximate)
6000kbps - up to 90 minutes in a DVD - 4.2GB (approximate)
8000kbps - up to 60 minutes in a DVD - 4.2GB (approximate)

carrot_milk · Post by **carrot_milk** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:25 am

Meaning when I convert, the maximum space I need would be 4.2 GB only? I just have to change configuration in Ulead MovieFactory to set the video bit rate?

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:30 am

Something along those lines, provided your PC has the power to do a capture to mpeg on the fly.
What is the source material? Tape, right? How are you planning on getting it into your PC? PC spec's? HDD capacity and free space? OS? File format? FAT 16, FAT 32, NTFS????

Philander · Post by **Philander** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:32 am

Provided that you already have the video file to be converted in your HD... meaning you are not going to capture it.. then...

This will be the file size that will eat space in your HD.

1. Original file size of the video file to be converted.
2. 4.2GB (approximate) will be used by temporary files which can be deleted after conversion and which will be simultaneously burned to DVD-R media
3. 4.2GB (approximate) if you are going to create DVD folders
4. 4.2GB (approximate) if you are going to create DVD Image file.

Philander · Post by **Philander** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:35 am

If you are going to capture it, then that will depend on the capture format you selected.

If MPEG-2, again for a 90 minute video, with about 6000kbps, you are going to use about 4GB

If you selected AVI, then you are going to use about 20GB of file size.

carrot_milk · Post by **carrot_milk** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:45 am

Well, this is my office pc, it sucks to the max

128 MB RAM
20 GB total HDD
5 GB free space
Windows 2000
FAT32 File Format

The source is the tape, meaning I have to capture it first and then only convert it into the DVD format, right? So, is the specs enough? Do I have any other options?

Philander · Post by **Philander** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:41 am

With your current system config...

Hmm. to be honest, it may not perform as expected.

You have the minimum system req not to mention that you have a very little free space HD.

What you can try is to make DVD using on the fly (Direct to Disc function), though I think your system may not be able to perform this job.

You may capture in MPEG-2 with about 3000kbps data rate and render with the same quality. I guess 3000kbs should be enough to perform this task.

Do not create Disc image file and DVD folders.

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:17 am

I would go further than that. With the system you have got there, I cannot see any way how you could do it. For starters, FAT 32 has a 4 GB file size limit. That in itself is not a problem for MF, I think (I use MSP7), it will split the file when max size is reached. However, by the time you have captured your video, provided your machine can handle the conversion to mpeg on the fly (I daubt it very much), your HD is going to be full, no room for temp files or anything.
IMHO, it won't work on that system of yours, sorry.

maddrummer3301 · Post by **maddrummer3301** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 2:58 pm

Suggest to your supervisor to purchase a Dvd Recorder.
A 90 Minute tape to dvd conversion will take about 2 hours
including finalizing the dvd.
You can always "Import" the dvd into MF to create any custom
menus or editiing of the dvd if necessary.
The dvd recorder will perform the correct mpeg2 compression etc
since your computer is below specs.

MD