Updated - Resetting the Library removes Ultimate effects

[dtvp]

Thanks Ken

I'll wait for Trevor's response - I realise you guys are doing this for all the right reasons and can't be around all the time.

Facebook here I come

[dtvp]

So what's wrong with the Library reset? It shouldn't remove the plug-ins, should it?


I have no idea, though I would have thought resetting the library would revert it to its factory state and contain only the library installed as part of Video Studio. Remember that the plug-ins are just that and thus extraneous to the factory libraryu...

I can confirm that resetting the library will remove all additional plugins you have installed, but as Ken stated, that's the purpose, to revert back to it's original state. What I do is to copy the vft_plug folder and any other folder that has had additional plugins added, to a separate location, then copy back after library reset, works most of the time, but on the odd occasion still have issues

But it's not the "original state" is it? The original state of VS Ultimate is to have the Ultimate plug-ins.When you reset the program by deleting the AppData roaming profile VideoStudio rebuilds the program with the plug-ins.Why can't it reset the Library without taking out the plug-ins that are part of the program?

[Ken Berry]

But they are called plug-ins for a reason: because they are NOT part of the original program but plug into it...

[dtvp]

If the Ultimate plug-ins are part of an "extended" library, and therefore are removed when you reset the Library, why aren't they saved as part of a Library export?

• I export a Library that shows me the plug-ins.
  I reset the Library.
  I Import the previous Library.
  The plug-ins aren't there.

BTW, the Appdata reset fix is listed only up to X6 in the Knowlegebase, but there is says that the procedure restores the program to it's default state - and it does so with the Ultimate plug-ins. So the default state of the Library is to have the plug-ins, but resetting the Library removes them?

At least the user should be able to re-install the plug-ins. If I run the Bonus install file it goes through the motions but nothing appears in the FX Library. I have to browse to a folder location that is hidden by default in Windows and delete what may or may not be an important system folder.. Then the plug-ins appears without re-installing.

For now, the workround for me is to export an empty Library and re-import that instead of using the Reset function.

[Ken Berry]

As I said above, I have never, not once, ever reset any library within any version of VS...

[dtvp]

As I said above, I have never, not once, ever reset any library within any version of VS...

With respect, what relevance has that got? The function doesn't work as I expect most people would want it to, so if a new user clicks on in as I did, they then have to spend a couple of days working out how to get their plug-ins back. Then when they try to report it, they are told "we don't use the function".

Please explain to me why the full reset keeps/restores the plug-ins if they aren't part of the default settings for Ultimate.

[lata]

Hi Guys

Thanks for the confidence and the mail from Ken, I had not noticed this post......

Each time I have re-installed Video Studio I have also to install the Bonus pack even though the files may exist on my pc, that way I think it simply refreshes the library links.

I remember some time back (could be X7 but maybe only X8), we asked that resetting the libraries only affected the installed filters, leaving the personal library pages intact, older versions would remove the user created files. I guess what I am saying is the library function and re-naming 18.0 may have changed from earlier versions.

When I have had problems in displaying the ProDad filters I have first reset –renaming 18.0, that usually works
And if don’t work re-install the Bonus files.

Now I have problems……
First I have just Exported my library as a backup
Then Reset the library—Corel Video Studio has stopped working – Close Program

Well the library did reset, the filters and all personal pages are removed, the library seems to be as installed, before installing the Bonus pack.

I then Reset the program by re-naming 18.0
Starting the program showed a progress bar that seemed to be importing the FX library. Then a second progress bar imported more filters.
The program launched showing the Bonus pack as installed.

Now I try Importing my library backup, that folder does not exist, would have been deleted during the crash.
Reset the library causes the program to crash again Hmmmm…….

Re name the 18.0 and I see the progress bars again, the program launched ok after a while.
But lost my personal library pages, I should have backed up that 18.0 folder.

Can someone try Settings Library Manager – Reset
It may be my program that’s at fault but if it can be replicated we can tell Corel.

I may end up re-installing so will check the bonus files?

[dtvp]

Can someone try Settings Library Manager – Reset
It may be my program that’s at fault but if it can be replicated we can tell Corel.

I may end up re-installing so will check the bonus files?

Settings/Library Reset doesn't crash here. First I see a "Please wait" message as a list of effects are processed (I assume deleted?) Then I get "Updating template database" then the final success message. If I then try to import a Library that I had exported that works although as I've already said, the ultimate plug-ins are gone.

[lata]

Hi

Thanks for that, I will re-install my program, sometimes I may mess about a little to much trying to simulate problems.

[lata]

Hi

I’m back in business.

I have uninstalled VSX8 using Programs and Features, that process gives the option to remove personal data.
I then re-installed the Main program then the Bonus files, pro dad etc. all installed ok.
I have not installed the extra Content file.

Library tests

1 / Exported the library ok
2 / Resetting the library removes my library pages, setting the program as first installed, without the Bonus files. Exported that library. “backup 2”
3 / Resetting the program by re-naming 18.0 worked ok, the process showed a progress bar populating the library. Took a while for program to launch.
All Bonus clips showed in FX however no personal library pages.
4 / Imported library from “backup 2”
That provided me with my Personal library pages, and retained the Bonus files even though "backup 2" did not have ProDad.

All up and running ok.

[Ken Berry]

Then when they try to report it, they are told "we don't use the function".

With equal respect, you are twisting my words. If you look at my post on page 1 of this thread where I first said I had never used the reset function, I thought I had made it clear I could not answer definitively since I simply had no experience in resetting the library. Now you are suggesting I meant that you shouldn't use the reset function. To repeat, I have never used the reset function -- not because I thought it should be avoided, but because I have never been confronted with the need to do so...

[dtvp]

Then when they try to report it, they are told "we don't use the function".

With equal respect, you are twisting my words. If you look at my post on page 1 of this thread where I first said I had never used the reset function, I thought I had made it clear I could not answer definitively since I simply had no experience in resetting the library. Now you are suggesting I meant that you shouldn't use the reset function. To repeat, I have never used the reset function -- not because I thought it should be avoided, but because I have never been confronted with the need to do so...

If what you meant is that you weren't sure how the reset function was supposed to operate, Ken, then I apologize, but it does seem to me that everyone in this thread is trying to persuade me that this function is absolutely fine as it is, though. I'm looking at it as a new user and it appears broken to me. You guys may all know the appdata deletion trick, but I don't see why it should be required if the reset function was programmed properly.

I tried posting on the facebook page, but is seems the only way to get attention there is to be rude. In my exploration so far I don't think that VideoStudio is a bad program at all, but I wonder if its suffering from the same sort of patchy development as Pinnacle Studio. Perhaps the underlying message I should be taking away from this forum is that there isn't much point in reporting bugs.

Corel should at least put this in the Knowledge base.

[lata]

Hi

I did not have any problems installing the program and Bonus files, all my libraries worked just fine.
I had no reason to reset the library or use the export/import options. I did so purely to test the functions which seemed to work ok.

I don’t find a need to use the Library Manager during my normal editing process, the only reason I go there is for testing.

The Appdata trick is documented on Corels Knowledge Base as a means to fixing problems sometimes that saves re-installing the program.
The article may refer to older versions but the principle is the same for all versions.
Do a search for Reset, I found one related to X6, unfortunately I cannot paste the URL to this post, I don't know what Corel have done to their knowledge Base?

The post is titled “Can’t find Plug-ins” are you still having problems

[dtvp]

Hi

I had no reason to reset the library or use the export/import options. I did so purely to test the functions which seemed to work ok.

My point is that they don't.

If you are running Ultimate, resetting the Library strips out the Ultimate effects. The only way I can find to restore them is to reset the program using the AppData trick, which also resets other functions.

I've seen that the Ultimate effects are all dumped in the same folders as the other ones. How does the Library reset choose which to delete and which to leave? I presume that there is a list somewhere within the program which doesn't take into account that you are running the ultimate version.

BTW, I've changed the title of the thread and edited my first post to help anyone searching who has the same issue.

[dtvp]

Having had a response from the facebook page that they have passed on my remarks to the programmers, I thought I'd try and set up some custom libraries and save them.

This is when I discovered that when you Import a Library, it ADDS it to the current one. Nothing wrong with that, good idea, but that's why you might want to reset the Library without losing your settings or Ultimate effects. And I've also found that sometimes the reset crashed the program.