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Wishlist for VideoStudio X9

Post by BrianCee »

As always when a new version is released we provide a topic in which your wishes for the next version can be posted.

This allows us to direct any visiting Corel development staff to just one topic to see what users want rather than wading through a few hundred posts.

A lot of the wishes for X8 have not been added so here's your chance to add them again.

so that you know what X8 offers the attached PDF gives the features available
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I was looking forward to this item appearing. (Only 365/6 days to XX0) :lol:



I would like to see a multicam synchronisation module added. This seems to be an option currently available on other editors and would be a useful addition.
Now that Audio Ducking has been added an increase in audio tracks from 4 to 6.
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let me continue with the audio theme,
- Audio levels meter in preview all the time. That can be show/hide in the preferences
- Better wave display in tracks, that if one amplify them they will actually look larger.
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This thread didn't take long!
Multicam is needed.
More audio tracks (like posted above).
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TonyP wrote:This thread didn't take long!
Multicam is needed.
More audio tracks (like posted above).
I absolutely agree with TonyP. VS is still limited to just 21 video/overlay and 4 audio tracks, while products from other companies offer up to 100 tracks and free video/audio type selection. When will Corel ever learn to implement most wanted features? Do we now have to wait another year until we can have this? Also multicam? Very disappointing, I think I can save the upgrade.
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Arcorias wrote:
TonyP wrote:This thread didn't take long!
Multicam is needed.
More audio tracks (like posted above).
I absolutely agree with TonyP. VS is still limited to just 21 video/overlay and 4 audio tracks, while products from other companies offer up to 100 tracks and free video/audio type selection. When will Corel ever learn to implement most wanted features? Do we now have to wait another year until we can have this? Also multicam? Very disappointing, I think I can save the upgrade.
One can get a bit silly with this. Why would you want 100 tracks? It does not make the program any better. We did everything we wanted with two tracks on past editors.
My suggestion of multicam is a "NICE TO HAVE" - no more. Videostudio will do multicam but it just needs a bit of lining up before you start.

I also agree with "asik1" a set of audio level meters would be very useful. I find that the rendered AVCHD file is much louder on my TV than on the PC replay. So aligning the volume of the rendered video with the replay equipment is, again, a great advantage.
The Audio Ducking and better implementation of 4K are genuinely useful additions. Doing audio ducking manually is hard and annoying and so an automatic system is a major improvement. 4K has well and truly arrived, therefore a good implementation of 4K handling is more important than 95 unused video tracks.
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Terfyn wrote: One can get a bit silly with this. Why would you want 100 tracks? It does not make the program any better. We did everything we wanted with two tracks on past editors.
My suggestion of multicam is a "NICE TO HAVE" - no more. Videostudio will do multicam but it just needs a bit of lining up before you start.
You never created a stop motion video yet, did you? If so, you could see that just 4 audio tracks are far not enough. But that is not what I meant with 100 tracks. What I meant was other products are not limited to 21 video/overlay and 4 audio tracks for the maximum, that means it is easy to select the number and types of tracks you need for your video project. If you need 2 video tracks and 8 audio tracks - no problem. VS studio does not allow this for the audio tracks. The 21 video/overlay tracks and 4 audio tracks seem to be tradition which started from X4 up to now. I really see no problem why this could not be changed, regarding the fact that the competitors made it possible some time ago already. Or in other words: It is silly to be stuck at this limitation.
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Yes, we can get silly with this. But what it is, is what a "person" would like to see. "Their" wishlist. Yes, you can edit with 2 tracks, but would you want to? I've had 16 streams of video and several of audio, and that can't be done in VSP because the audio limit. The same with titles and layering. It is a matter of what "you" need. Heck, there are times when I have done my work with just 2 tracks.
Personally, for "me" being "locked" into what a track can be is limiting....

I agree, multicam for 2 cameras is really not needed. But try it with more than that. It is so much quicker and easier with less setup at the event to do this, especially if one camera malfunctions at the start. Have you tried it in other software? I have. And for that specific purpose, I bought the other software. Other than that, I don't use that software for anything else. It's a tool. I use for me, the right tool to get the results I want.

Audio Ducking? Been doing that for years, but we call it audio keyframing in Pinnacle land, and it darn easy to do. But I can see where doing it automatically can save you time. One less thing to worry about and free you up for other more complex issues.
4K? The future and present. I'm going 4K in a couple of weeks, so need reliable handling of it. Also building a new computer to handle the more complex files. I personally do not care for working with proxies. But again, that's "me" and does not have to apply to anyone else.

And this is where I agree and disagree. IF you don't use a lot of tracks, then have a zillion of them is pointless. But for others that do, it's important to "them". I can only express what "I" would like because of the way "I" edit. So for me to have more than 4 audio tracks and how many title tracks is limiting "me". That's all. Especially when other software have this feature and use it for advertising purposes.

Say you are at the local big box store looking for software (or cruising the net). Even though you'll never use more than 3 tracks, which would most people buy? The one that says it can do 100 or the one that says it can do 21......
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With all due respect, is there any reason to believe that there is any correlation between the wishlist and what actually shows up in a future version? As a new user and new to the forums (one month or so), I see zero evidence of any such correlation. No one at Corel responds to the items and hence there is no reason to believe that anyone there even reads them, much less anyone who actually has influence over the feature set. The new features actually introduced seem to overlap with what was requested no more than they would by random chance. There is little point in reposting previously requested items when there is no feedback at all as to whether they were not included because very few people wanted them, or the development effort was too high, or some other company had a patent on it that was too expensive to license, etc., etc. There is just no feedback whatsoever.
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@tanguero, yeah... I agree with you. It's a "wish" list. So we "wish"!
I think the desire is to post what you would like to see in the product to make it better, more competitive and more "complete".
My "wish list" is LONG, and only a pro (read: expensive and complex) editor will fill that "wish". Sadly, I am not up to spending the money or going through the long learning curve any more. BUT, if say multicam were added to a piece of software you know, it will cut down on that learning curve, or having to switch to something unfamiliar.

We are sharing our "dreams" of the perfect VideoStudio Pro.
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tanguero wrote:With all due respect, is there any reason to believe that there is any correlation between the wishlist and what actually shows up in a future version? As a new user and new to the forums (one month or so), I see zero evidence of any such correlation.
Tanguero: That is really the point. Your question is legitimate.

@BrianCee: You wrote "... any visiting Corel development staff" - but did anybody of these guys ever respond to our wishes? Do you know anybody of the development staff or how it is possible to contact them?

When I read reviews some time ago about VS, they often said the support of Corel is hardly existent. Plus, they now have Pinnacle Studio under their hood, so the question is where main development is focused for the future. Did Corel ever publish a statement on this?

Regarding the fact that a lot of wishes for X8 have not been added (Brian said this already), I doubt if that will really happen for X9. I guess they will add more bells and whistles around, but the core (number of tracks, audio andling) will regetfully stay the same. Hopefully I will be wrong.
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It looks as if Corel are consolidating both VideoStudio and Pinnacle. Example Scorefitter which was a Pinnacle music fit for as long as I ran Pinnacle. Plus I noticed that Triple Scoop is available on VSX8 and Studio 18. This does make sense but its whether they will finish with one video editor in the future.

I do believe Corel do listen. I wanted a method to reduce the volume on the music track when the voiceover was active and I was rewarded with Audio Ducking. It was probably a step they were going to progress without my input, I will never know.

The test will be multicam editing as it has been asked for by a number of contributors.
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Strange, what this wish list discussion turn to be.
Seems like there isn't any improvement from X4 to X8. Are they the same?
So what if 52 ideas in the X8 wishlist did not make it into the final version but other did.

** Arcorias , doing 100 tracks is exactly what bells and whistles is.
Without doing an academic research or survey I can guaranty that less than 0.001% of the average VS user needs 100 tracks for day to day projects that will render for 100 hours as well. :lol:
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asik1 wrote: ** Arcorias , doing 100 tracks is exactly what bells and whistles is.
Without doing an academic research or survey I can guaranty that less than 0.001% of the average VS user needs 100 tracks for day to day projects that will render for 100 hours as well. :lol:
Really? Why aren't 99.999 % of the average users already happy with Windows Movie Maker? :lol:
Asik, please read some reviews of VS and then guess why competitive products are often rated better.
For example, start here: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2330787,00.asp

But to be honest, I would already be happy if VS had the same number of audio tracks as well as video tracks. But not even that is realized.
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Arcorias wrote:
asik1 wrote: ** Arcorias , doing 100 tracks is exactly what bells and whistles is.
Without doing an academic research or survey I can guaranty that less than 0.001% of the average VS user needs 100 tracks for day to day projects that will render for 100 hours as well. :lol:
Really? Why aren't 99.999 % of the average users already happy with Windows Movie Maker? :lol:
Asik, please read some reviews of VS and then guess why competitive products are often rated better.
For example, start here: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2330787,00.asp

But to be honest, I would already be happy if VS had the same number of audio tracks as well as video tracks. But not even that is realized.
Perhaps you should read that linked to review. One program is rated equal to VS X7 and 2 are rated lower. So how are competitive products rated better? That review shows X7 gives the best bang for the buck!

Also the reviewer basically agrees with those asking "why do you need 100 tracks": ....I can't really see a consumer video production (or even many pro projects) needing more.
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