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I work on a Mac and have X7 installed to run under Parallels. My wife just got a new computer and I was thinking about installing X7 on her machine but I don't know what the license restrictions for X7 are. Am I allowed to install X7 on two different machines?

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Googled "paintshop pro license" and found the answer. Should have done that before asking the question. Sorry for the trouble. The appropriate information seems to be this:

THIS SOFTWARE IS LICENSED PER HOUSEHOLD OR PER SINGLE ADDRESS (“ADDRESS”). EXCEPT FOR THE COREL PRODUCTS LISTED BELOW, YOU MAY ONLY DOWNLOAD AND INSTALL THE SOFTWARE ON ONE COMPUTING DEVICE.

EXCEPT IF LOCATED IN CHINA, INDIA, INDONESIA OR VIETNAM, PRIVATE AND BUSINESS USERS OF AFTERSHOT, COREL CAPTURE, COREL CONNECT, COREL WEBSITE CREATOR, CORELDRAW, COREL DESIGNER, CORELCAD, COREL OFFICE, COREL PAINTER, COREL PDF FUSION, PAINTSHOP PRO , PAINTSHOP PHOTO PRO, PARADOX, COREL PHOTO-PAINT, PRESENTATIONS, QUATTRO PRO, AND WORDPERFECT THAT HAVE MULTIPLE COMPUTING DEVICES (E.G., STAND-ALONE COMPUTER, LAPTOP AND MINI/PORTABLE PC), MAY DOWNLOAD AND INSTALL ANY OF THESE SOFTWARE PRODUCTS ON UP TO THREE (3) SYSTEMS IN A SINGLE ADDRESS, HOWEVER IT CAN ONLY BE USED BY YOU ON ONE (1) SYSTEM AT A TIME.

So it appears that it is OK for me to install a second copy on her computer for me to use, provided I do not use both at the same time. Seems reasonable to me.
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Well, Isn't that enough to explain the license agreement?
If you "don't live in CHINA, INDIA, INDONESIA OR VIETNAM you can have up to and including 3 PC's either(E.G., STAND-ALONE COMPUTER, LAPTOP AND MINI/PORTABLE PC) under 1 license.
IN A SINGLE ADDRESS, HOWEVER IT CAN ONLY BE USED BY YOU ON ONE (1) SYSTEM AT A TIME.
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Here is an interesting question.
I have a desktop computer with a main drive (C) and the data drive (F). I have PSP X7 installed on the C drive.
I have also taken another hard drive and placed in the computer and installed Windows 7 on that and still yet another and have Windows 8.1 on that . Changing from one system to another just requires : computer off - unplugging a Sata cable from one drive and plugging into whichever operating system I require.

So my Desktop has three personalities. XP, Win 7, Win 8 but only one operates at a time (schizophrenic I know)

Now if I install PSP X7 on each of those hard drives, does that use up all my installs?
They cannot be used elsewhere except on that computer, they can only be used one at a time. Does it count as one install or three?

I likewise have 3 Laptops and have Win 7 on each of those and two of them are going to also have a hard drive replaced with Win 8 on that.

Now if I place PSP X7 on each of the Win 7 Laptops the count is up to 6. And if two of them also have replaceable Win 8 drives then the count will be up to 8 installs.

I have purchased two copies of PSP X7 one including a disk.

I am unlikely to have three computers running with X7 at the same time so in all I will only be operating a maximum of two at once maching my purchases. But in all as suggested I will have installed it 8 times which theoretically is outside the allowable installs.
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There's no doubt that there are many folks out there with more than three copies installed.
But the two running at one time will get me into trouble. Sorry Corel! But I have a setup that involves a highend laptop doing the hard work. Sitting on the same desk is a desktop that is connected to a large calibrated monitor. That desktop/monitor combination is connected to my printer. So work flow is, editing on the laptop with final colour correction and printing done on the desktop. So I often have both computers running with PSP running at the same time. I guess technically I have two installations running at the same time. However the way I see it is that I have one 'application' working at one time.

I guess the 'spirit' of the agreement is what matters most. In my case I'm splitting the workflow which involves two installations. But in reality I'm only doing one job at a time.

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DPainter wrote:Well, Isn't that enough to explain the license agreement?
If you "don't live in CHINA, INDIA, INDONESIA OR VIETNAM you can have up to and including 3 PC's either(E.G., STAND-ALONE COMPUTER, LAPTOP AND MINI/PORTABLE PC) under 1 license.
IN A SINGLE ADDRESS, HOWEVER IT CAN ONLY BE USED BY YOU ON ONE (1) SYSTEM AT A TIME.
Legalese, which is supposed to clear up ambiguous statements, always seems to me to make them even murkier. For example,

What is the rule if you do live in China, India, Indonesia or Vietnam? Is there a single rule for all? Or different rules for each? Are those rules looser? Or tighter? Or are there no rules at all?

What does it mean to use only one system at a time? Can both computers be on at the same time if they are not running X7? Or do you have to shut down one computer before you can start the other?

Are there any restrictions about what those 3 machines can be? The example uses a stand-alone (desktop?) computer, a laptop and a mini. How about 2 laptops and a mini? Or 3 laptops?

The statement refers to PCs. What are the rules if X7 is running on a Mac under a Windows VM? How many Macs can be used?

And on and on and on ...
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The murky water starts with the No Asians policy! or "live" in said same countries regardless of race.
It's clear there is no one rule.
This question for a start wouldn't have been asked at all by 99.9% of people out there. They would use it as they found it necessary.
Having more then one operating system per person today is a given regardless of the country your in. For me, I'm not one that owns a laptop, a tablet, a iPhone and all that crap but I do have 2 desk tops and 2 laptops that my older kids own at this address.
I'm interested in knowing why your the 0.1% that would even ask this in the first place.
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DPainter wrote: I'm interested in knowing why your the 0.1% that would even ask this in the first place.
I am not sure I am the "0.1%", or even what that means, but since you ask ...

I am a retired software engineer and I understand the relationship between license purchases and the ability of a software company to hire people to provide new functionality and support for existing products. To me that means that when I buy software I also agree to abide with the license restrictions and hence I wanted to know if what I was planning to do (put a second copy on my wife's computer for me to use if needed) was legal, ethical and within the license restrictions. If it was not I would not do so. I would either buy another license or find another editor to use on her machine. Since I have no real plans to use it, that would not be difficult to do and I could easily have used a much simpler product if needed.

Does that answer your question?
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I was once involved in an organization that devoted way to much time to trying to 'trap' the 1% of those who were skirting around the 'rules'. That 1% took up 30% of the time that could have otherwise been spent developing new ideas.

Corel needs to keep a close eye out for 'blatant' miss use of their agreements. But to spend valuable time and money on chasing the 1% is IMHO not a bright idea.
Besides they may be reading this and think "ah...... there's an idea!".

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brucet wrote:I was once involved in an organization that devoted way to much time to trying to 'trap' the 1% of those who were skirting around the 'rules'. That 1% took up 30% of the time that could have otherwise been spent developing new ideas.
Quite so.
brucet wrote: Corel needs to keep a close eye out for 'blatant' miss use of their agreements. But to spend valuable time and money on chasing the 1% is IMHO not a bright idea.
Besides they may be reading this and think "ah...... there's an idea!".
In the "old days" (about 25 or 30 years ago before there really was an internet) it was a real problem for companies, although I think mostly for game companies. People could copy 3 1/2 inch disks (remember those?) and just use the software and I remember also how much trouble the companies went through trying to find a way to put flaws in the disks to make sure they were their disks and not copies.

But now with the internet it seems much easier. Adobe has a straight forward method and you cannot use Photoshop without logging into your account and staying logged in. I am surprised that more companies have not adopted their simple method. But, interestingly enough, Adobe also seems to allow free use of their Organizer (the one bundled with Elements) and Bridge (bundled with Photoshop) because logging out, which disables both Elements and Photoshop, does not disable either Organizer or Bridge and someone could, if they wished, use either with other editors.

In any case Corel is a large corporation and I suppose their execs have discussed this many times and they have decided on their current policy. Three copies seems like a reasonable number to me and I can easily live with the idea that I cannot use any more than one at any particular time.
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3 1/2" disks! Try 8" floppies. (My first computer had no disks and 'only 32k of ram and 32k of rom).

Photoshop is pirated a lot because of it's high price and position at the top of the tree. PSP isn't 'expensive' so it attracts less bad guys. As long as that balance remains it wont be a huge target for miss use.

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