Trouble importing TIFF files...

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Re: Trouble importing TIFF files...

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baldrick777 wrote:[*]I used dispalGUI to calibrate my monitor with a Spyder4 loaned to me by a friend. I have two profiles, one (whose name aludes me) which was set as my system wide profile, the other was sRGB set as my user profile. How can I change the two around? I'm picking it's probably better to have the sRGB profile as system?
Not at all!!!
sRGB is a working space, not a screen profile. The screen profile contains a calibration part to bring the screen in a defined stated and a profile part that tells applications about the screen characteristics.
[*]When I was creating my profiles, dispalGUI requested I physically alter the RGB settings in my monitor so that they lined up with their calibrated model. Now that the monitor has been calibrated, can I reset my monitors RGB values back to default, or should I just leave them as they are?
If you reset them, then all work was for naught. The goal is to bring the screen into a defined state.
After calibration you don't touch any monitor setting at all.
[*]Did I understand you correctly when I thought you said that ASP2 automatically saves TIFFs as ProPhoto? If I got that wrong, can I get it to do so, and how? The 16bit part I'm ok with.
In the batch queue properties the output profile has to be set explicitly.
AS uses a ProPhoto variant internally, but the output is converted to whatever you set in the queue (or the preferences if you call Krita directly from AS).
[*]Should I have already configured Krita (settings/preferences/Color management/...

default color model for new images 'RGB (16-bit interger/channel)';
Looks fine.
Display/monitor profile 'ProPhoto RGB';
That should be you monitor profile that you generated with DispcalGUI, not your working space.
Display/rendering intent 'perceptual' (default);
That is fine.
Should I change any other settings under Colour Management, or leave them as defaults?
Leave them as they are.
Are there any other changes I should make in either program?
Nothing essential here.
Any other tips or suggestions with regard to setting things up?!
Not for the interaction...

If you find yourself copying specific settings often, check out Copy Sets in AfterShot. makes life faster.

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Re: Trouble importing TIFF files...

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So, should my 'Colour Management ' Preferences look like this?
Preferences_001.png
If not, what setting should I use under monitor profile? (The profile in the image is the one created by discpalGUI)
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Re: Trouble importing TIFF files...

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These are my other options created by discpalGUI. Does any look better? Trying not to be confused...
Choose a monitor profile_002.png
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Re: Trouble importing TIFF files...

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DispCalGuy is a bit chatty when it comes to it's output and it stores all intermediate files from ArgyllCMS.
The one you have listed in the aftershot preferences seems right.

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Re: Trouble importing TIFF files...

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Ok, I think I'm almost there. Yay!

I've just purchased your e book, very comprehensive indeed. It'll come in very handy!

I think I've just got one more question, requiring a Krita screen shot, which I'll post in the morning (our time)...

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Re: Trouble importing TIFF files...

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Preferences – Krita_003.png
AFX, Does this look alright to you? Would you change anything else?

Finally, thanks again for your help AFX! Hopefully now I can pick up my camera and shoot with confidence, safe in the knowledge that whatever my prints look like on screen will pretty much come out the same way when printed.

Cheers.
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Re: Trouble importing TIFF files...

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baldrick777 wrote:AFX, Does this look alright to you?
If Krita is intelligent enough to use the system profile on Linux yes (I know AS is too stupid to pick it up).
Otherwise specify it explicitly like you did for AS.

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Re: Trouble importing TIFF files...

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Hi afx!,

Gimp is now in 16 bits. (I mean version 2.9+)
www.gimpusers.com/tutorials/whats-new-in-gimp-2-10

So long,
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tundraquad wrote:Hi afx!,

Gimp is now in 16 bits. (I mean version 2.9+)
http://www.gimpusers.com/tutorials/what ... -gimp-2-10

So long,
Interesting. So how do you download 2.9/2.10 for Linux? The highest it goes from their own website is 2.8.10.

Cheers.
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Re: Trouble importing TIFF files...

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tundraquad wrote:Gimp is now in 16 bits. (I mean version 2.9+)
http://www.gimpusers.com/tutorials/what ... -gimp-2-10
Doesn't really help when the official downloads are still at 2.8, but at least it is finally moving...

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Re: Trouble importing TIFF files...

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baldrick777 wrote:
tundraquad wrote:Hi afx!,

Gimp is now in 16 bits. (I mean version 2.9+)
http://www.gimpusers.com/tutorials/what ... -gimp-2-10

So long,
Interesting. So how do you download 2.9/2.10 for Linux? The highest it goes from their own website is 2.8.10.

Cheers.
Compile for yourself if you are feeling very adventurous!
See http://www.gimpusers.com/gimp/versions
Development: 2.9.1
You can get the current code base via git (git://git.gnome.org/gimp).


R.
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Google 'gimp 2.9 ppa', webupd8 has an article How to add gimp-next ppa. It has the 'unstable' 2.91 version. Been playing with it, doesn't seem to be much unstable about it to me.

Oh, and it supports ProPhoto ROB too!

It does indeed look promising. ..

Cheers all. Really appreciated your help.
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Re: Trouble importing TIFF files...

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baldrick777 wrote:Google 'gimp 2.9 ppa', webupd8 has an article How to add gimp-next ppa. It has the 'unstable' 2.91 version. Been playing with it, doesn't seem to be much unstable about it to me.
That's what I did. I used the ppa.
I cannot complaint neither about the stability. Although I only played a little bit with it, being curious. I do most of the work with ASP.
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Re: Trouble importing TIFF files...

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GRRRRR!!!

So now ASP2 seems to be playing nice, but I can't seem to get my pics to save properly when passed through either GIMP 2.9 or Krita.

I can save from ASP2, and either view through gThumb (image viewer), or Gimp (either opened through ASP or a new session). When opened in Krita, I get a horrible, colourless, insipid pic - pretty much as they printed out before I embarked on this, what has become, a labourious process.

I get the same insipid pic when I export from GIMP (with no mods done while in GIMP) to another folder.

I would really appreciate it if someone would kindly point me in the right direction here.

All I really need an external app for now is to add an additional layer for my watermark, but it would be great to get the root of the problem sorted.

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Re: Trouble importing TIFF files...

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Actually I think I have it sorted now. .. Only need now to print a few pix at the photo lab this week. I'll keep in touch.
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