Bar around image

[ATV2gal]

I have Windows 8.1 and PSPX6. I find that I have a bar all around my image. All of a sudden that will disappear and a brown background appears. I was told to go to Windows and uncheck the tab. That didn't do anything. Every time that happens I have to start over or go back to my last save. Does anyone have a solution for me. I was also told to make a button and then I can click on that and it will go back to my image with a bar around it. But I don't have a clue how to make a button that will do that.
Thanks.

[LindaSue]

Can you post a screenshot of what this looks like?

[ATV2gal]

I sure will as soon as I have a project to work on. That is when it always happens.

[ATV2gal]

Hi,
It happened so fast that I could get a snap shot of what the problem is. It is called Border problem. As I said, sometimes I can go to windows and put or remove a check mark on tabbed documents but that only works once and not all of the time.
I hope you can see what my problem is and have a solution for me.
Thanks

[hartpaul]

Right click on that grey background and down the bottom on Background colour you can have 5 different shades. Does your "problem" occur with each background?
If you save your image as a png to keep transparency does it apear when you load it into paint? ie is it a permanent part of your image?

[ATV2gal]

Hi,
Yes it occurs on all backgrounds. Yes it again appears. This isn't a problem with the image it is a problem with PSP. How do I stop that from happening? I was told to make a button and click on it when this happens and it will take me back to the correct tab (screen) that I was on. I don't have a clue how to make a button that will take me back to the correct screen. I know how to make buttons for drop shadow and things like that but not this.
Some times I can be working right along and it doesn't happen for awhile. Then all of a sudden it does.

[hartpaul]

So it is not an image defect.

I cannot see from your screen shot anything more than what looks like a monitor contrast effect.
There does not appear to be a fixed border to the image. You need a larger cropped image of one corner to show us what you mean.
Perhaps a screen shot cropped with just a corner section against your grey, then one against a white and another against a black may shopw its consistency.

Does it actually affect your processing or is it just an irritation in your case?
Do you get it with windowed images? Window > untick Tabbed documents.

The ability to change the background color came in with X6.
I did a bit more testing. made an image that was 100 x 100 pixels and transparent.
Window > Untick tabbed documents.
Mouse wheel zoomed in so that the image was scaled about 600%.
Dragged on the window edge so that the background could be seen and right clicked that to make sure it was a medium grey (120,120,120).
Around the edge of the transparent image is a gradient effect which can be measured with the eyedropper.
(Hold your cursor over the Foreground /Stroke color box so it changes to an eyedropper. Then hold the control key down and move the dropper across the background and to the edges of the image.)
Mine goes from 83 on the image edge through 88, 98,105,110,113,116,119,120. So there is a gradient from 83 dark near the image to the background 120 . This seems to be a display thingy to separate the image from the background and is not part of the image. I don't think you can change this at all.
Just s in a windowed image there appears a very tiny black border around the image which goes down to about 23 from 47 near the image scaled at 6000%.

[ATV2gal]

This is a PSP problem that Corel has. I was told by others that they have the same problem. It doesn't happen all of the time just some of the time. It is not my monitor as it happens on my lap top as well as my husbands computer too.
So when it happens on three different computers it isn't a monitor problem. Plus as I have mentioned before it doesn't have a border around the image. From what you are saying, you haven't encounter this problem before. There must be some one who has. The person who mentioned the button to my friend, must know about this problem and how I should make this button to have my PSP return to normal. I know people have told me to go to Windows and uncheck the tab. That doesn't always work but it does sometimes. I really appreciate you trying to help me.

[hartpaul]

That button to untick tabbed and retick tabbed refers to a different problem where there seemed to be a crack around the edge of the workspace where you could see the windows desktop between the edges



Whereas what I referred to in my previous post is this:


Am I getting close to your problem?

[MarkZ]

I suspect that this is not a bug nor a problem. I believe that this is how Corel developers decided to display images in Edit mode. The border is a display artifact and not part of the image.

To test this I removed a portion of an image to leave a transparent area, as you did in your example. I got the dimensions of my image and opened a new file with a size 200 pixels greater for both height and width. I then copied the image as a new layer into the new file. If the border were part of the image I would expect to see it in the new file - it is not there; see the attachment. To check this out, when you see the border you are concerned about, save the image as a PNG file. Create a larger file and copy the saved image into it. If you see the border then it is a bug. I suspect also that the smaller the image you start with the more pronounced this border may appear.

[ATV2gal]

Hi,
Mark,I tried your suggestions and my image didn't show up in the larger one I made.
HartPaul no you really aren't getting close to my problem. I was hoping that my attachment would have made it clearer. Once this happens to what I am working on, I can't change it back to having a black border (rectangle) around my image.
I just have my image and a gray/brown screen in the back ground. I may have been working an hour on this project and when this happens I can't change it back. So my work is lost. I have to close my PSPX6 and reopen it and then I can start over.
I appreciate both of your thoughts on this. I hope it can get solved. I know you said the windows/tab is a different kind of problem but...every now and then I can tick or untick it and it will fix the problem but not always.
Thank you both again for being so kind as to try and help. I just made a transparent image. It had a border but I pulled on the sides to make it bigger and then I got the gray/brown background to show up. It doesn't cover the whole screen but will give you an idea of what I am talking about. When this usually happens my whole workspace screen is covered with this. I attached a small portion of the background so you would get an idea of what I mean.

[hartpaul]

Hi ATV2gal.
My postings were to show you some of the possible problems, but more to show you how you can crop and have a much larger image which shows clearly what the problems is. You are still showing a full screen capture rather than cropping it down to show us clearly what the problem is. Your first image was 907 x 494 pixels but showed large expanses of uninformative grey areas. Your second image shows 700 x 317 pixels and includes the tool bar, materials and layers palette. Were they really necessary to be included ?? I still cannot see what your problem is. I can see some shadow around the image , but brown??? It is all unclear.

[LindaSue]

To get rid of the gray background around the image, you can choose the Zoom Tool and then click the "Fit Window to Image" button I've circled in the screenshot below:

If you're trying to add a very thin (1-2 pixel) border to your image, it does look as if the border is missing when the gray background is visible, but it's actually still there. As soon as you shrink the image background back to the size of your image, the border will be visible again. If I zoom in very close, I can see the border quite plainly as you can see in the little image I've pasted on the screenshot below:

[ATV2gal]

HI,
Thank you very much!! It worked. The gray/brown background disappeared and the bar that goes around my image is back. Plus the three buttons at the top right of my image are also back. I don't mean the top of my PSP but the top of my image. Hugs to ya!
Now one more quick question. When I open an image the top part is hidden under my tool Option bar. I have tried to rearrange but nothing works. Is there a secret to get that to stop? I have to move the tool bar every time so I can pull down my image. I attached a picture.
Thank you again

[MarkZ]

ATV2gal:

From your last post it appears you were able to paste your image onto a new canvas and there were no borders.

The image you posted appears to show that your options toolbar is floating and that you have very few controls showing. My preference is to have the standard toolbar, rulers and the layers palette in view as shown in the attachment. Also, I prefer to have the options toolbar docked. I sometimes dislodge it inadvertently but always put it back. To dock it grab it with the mouse and start moving it. Docking options will appear, as shown in the attachment; move the mouse pointer over the top one and let go.

To see all of the canvas on which you are working, use the zoom adjustment - there are a number of controls to do that in the tools option for the move tool or in the pan (hand) tool. With the options toolbar where it is in your picture you could see all your palette by zooming out - smaller % zoom.

Another suggestion is that in the menu you select Help/User guide (PDF) and download that. On page 25 is a description of the edit workspace and in the guide there may be answers to many of your questions. Whenever that fails, we'll see if we can help here. Enjoy.

I was preparing to respond to your earlier post when I saw the last one. In the image in the attachment I had added a border to illustrate the difference between a border that is part of your picture and one that is not.