Magic Fill vs. Object Remover

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Magic Fill vs. Object Remover

Post by AlanT »

Hi all,

After playing with the magic fill tool in X7, I'm starting to get frustrated at how often it pulls inappropriate content from the surrounding image. It seems I get more predictable results when using the object remover tool.

Is anyone else having this experience, or am I using the wrong tool for the wrong job?

If I'm using the wrong tool, can someone help me understand what situation the new magic fill tool is a better option than the object remover?

Thanks.

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Re: Magic Fill vs. Object Remover

Post by LeviFiction »

I don't know if the fill method is the same between them, but the selection methods are very different.

The magic fill (content aware) uses the pixels around the edge of the selection to determine what colors to match. So if the selection goes through a particular color or shade it'll try to match that. And there is no limit to where it can grab this information, it grabs it from anywhere in the image. Although, in my experience, it attempts to grab the samples from areas close to the selection and won't go too far out if it doesn't need to.

Object Remover, on the other hand, uses a rectangle to use as the selection area. So you can really limit the selection options.

Which one should you use? Depends on the image, what you're trying to remove and the areas it has to pick from.

Remember Magic Fill isn't actually aware of the content in the image. It's only aware of the colors around the edge of the selection and attempts to use that to tell it what should be filled in. So the best way to handle Magic Fill is to be careful with your selections. Be aware of the colors you're selecting and the areas around it.

Also, while you may occasionally have to clean up the result by using the Magic Fill again. The end result may be worth it.

So could using the clone tool, or the blemish fixer, or the smart carver. All tools with their benefits and differences.
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Re: Magic Fill vs. Object Remover

Post by AlanT »

Thanks for the help, Levi.

From what I'm seeing, it appears that the object remover will blend the source material with the edges of the target selection, much like the magic fill tool, with the main different being that the magic fill doesn't give me any control over where it pulls image data, whereas the object remover does. Other than this, it appears that they essentially do the same thing.

So, it sounds like your experience shows there is enough of a difference to say the magic fill option is more than just clever marketing?

BTW - love your YouTube channel.

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