Rotating a group?

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terrypin
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Rotating a group?

Post by terrypin »

This is the current status of my editing in PSP 8:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/401 ... roup-1.jpg

I'd prefer to align the Chesil Beach text (in its slot enclosure of course) with the beach itself. Is that possible please?

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Re: Rotating a group?

Post by terrypin »

I was able to do it by this rather long-winded method:

1. Flattening a copy
2. Using Smart Edge to select the Chesil Beach element
3. Tidying that up
4. Using Ctrl+V to make a new image of that
5. Opening (or creating) an earlier version which didn't include the Chesil Beach element
6. Pasting the image from step 4 into the version at step 5 as a new layer
7. Rotating and positioning that as required.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4019461/MM-05e4.jpg

But I'm hoping there's a simpler way, directly from the original .pspimage file, or at least with fewer steps than my tedious method.

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Re: Rotating a group?

Post by Forriner »

If I'm right, PSP 8 doesn't have a Pick tool, but the old Deform tool. I can still activate that in X4 by pressing 'D''. It's the Arrow tool?

In X4, the Pick tool allows you to rotate and move a whole layer group by selecting the group button in the layer palette.
Using the 'D' tool, PSP X4 tells me the group has to be merged into a single raster layer, after which the Deform tool can turn it and move it.

Assuming your group can be merged without transparency problems, maybe you could try that? Maybe duplicate the group before merging, and make it invisible (unclick the eyes) just in case.

Possible alternative, again from X4:
The move tool can move a layer group. If not, merge the layers you need to move.
Freehand Image/Rotate can rotate a layer group if "all layers" is not checked.

Good luck.
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Re: Rotating a group?

Post by terrypin »

Thanks a bunch, Forriner! I'd cancelled out from that message about merging into a single raster layer, but now see that my apprehension was misplaced.

I also found that with that group Chesil selected I can use Image > Rotate > Free Rotate, with no message. But that's much slower as I had to successively guess what angle to apply until I got the required result. The Deform tool is so much faster.

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Re: Rotating a group?

Post by Forriner »

terrypin wrote:... I'd cancelled out from that message about merging into a single raster layer..., but now see that my apprehension was misplaced.
Hi Terry, just a tip: apprehension that proves to be justified is one reason for 'undo' :)
I'm glad it worked.
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