I have now confirmed that in addition to some other problems and operational deficiencies (see my posting in the Wish List thread) PSP Color Management ignores an Adobe Profile that has been embedded in a JPEG image by a camera (in my case, Nikon D7000 and D800). The image bits are treated as if you had checked "Ignore embedded profile". The only way you can get a *recognized* Adobe profile embedded in the image is first to switch the Color Working Space to Adobe RGB, load the image into the Editor and then "Save As" being sure that in the Save Options you have checked "Embed ICC Profile". This is a confounded nuisance and a moderately serious flaw (unless I have done something wrong).
If I switch my cameras to the crappy sRGB color space, the camera embedded sRGB profile is correctly recognized and used by PSP Color Management. It is remotely possible the problem is Nikon's but doubt this very much as Capture One and Photoshop (CS5 - the last release I was willing to pay for) work properly with the same images and profiles.
There are a number of problems with PSP CM and they ought to be fixed - soon. There are many like me who are using PSP instead of Photoshop because not only is PSP the better product in some important respects but we feel there's merit in supporting a realistic alternative to Adobe with their outrageous prices and presumptuous bullying. CM is IMO the Achilles heel of PSP which I otherwise consider fantastic. Yes, you can usually get to where you want to go with color but this often requires messy workarounds and distracting procedures that should be done away with (it's very annoying having to close all images before switching Color Working Space). Corel has done a great job over the last couple of years bringing us big improvements such as full 48 bit image editing support, 64 bit code and the remarkably useful "Tray" feature. I really appreciate these efforts but we desperately need a high priority focus on CM to make PSP fully competitive with PS.
Best wishes,
K.
Please Fix Color Management
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Klindar
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Re: Please Fix Color Management
Klindar I agree with 'most' of your comments re PSP's colour management. It is and always has been a weak link in PSP. But as you say there are many work arounds.
However what I do object to is your use of the term 'crappy sRGB work space'. I would guess the vast majority of users are using sRGB and are very happy with the results. In fact I would guess that 99.9999% of users can't see the difference between 'crappy' sRGB and Adobe RGB. In my humble opinion if you, as you say, are using JPEGS then you have already thrown away more data than the difference between sRGB and Adobe RGB can make. Now if you were using RAW files then you may just be able to make more of a difference.
But yes, please Corel, address some of the colour management issues.
regards
However what I do object to is your use of the term 'crappy sRGB work space'. I would guess the vast majority of users are using sRGB and are very happy with the results. In fact I would guess that 99.9999% of users can't see the difference between 'crappy' sRGB and Adobe RGB. In my humble opinion if you, as you say, are using JPEGS then you have already thrown away more data than the difference between sRGB and Adobe RGB can make. Now if you were using RAW files then you may just be able to make more of a difference.
But yes, please Corel, address some of the colour management issues.
regards
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Re: Please Fix Color Management
Hi Brucet,
Apologies for my poor choice of words. No disrespect intended. It would have been properly objective just to say "the smaller sRGB"color space". There remain many good reasons to work in sRGB and I do it myself quite often.
Best wishes,
jh
Apologies for my poor choice of words. No disrespect intended. It would have been properly objective just to say "the smaller sRGB"color space". There remain many good reasons to work in sRGB and I do it myself quite often.
Best wishes,
jh
