No icons on menus? (X6)

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lphilpot
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No icons on menus? (X6)

Post by lphilpot »

New installation on Win7 Home Premium 64-bit. Everything works OK but none of the menus have any icons showing. I can Customize and one by one, enable the icons, but is there a central place to toggle them off/on? I half-remember on a recent software install seeing an option to enable or disable icon menus, but no idea if it was PSP or not.

Not a showstopper by any means, but can I simultaneously toggle all the menu icons on somewhere? I've been through the Preferences, etc., but if it's there, I'm blind. :?

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Re: No icons on menus? (X6)

Post by LeviFiction »

Nope, it's not there. They removed it back with X4 I think.
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lphilpot
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Re: No icons on menus? (X6)

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Any idea where that's saved? I looked at the workspace file, but it's binary as far as I can tell. I checked the CurentUser registry key, but searching on 'icon', 'menu', etc. turned up nothing.

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Re: No icons on menus? (X6)

Post by LeviFiction »

I do not know, no.

Interestingly, the workspace is a specially formatted file that is essentially nothing but a collection of registry settings.
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Re: No icons on menus? (X6)

Post by lphilpot »

That's how it looked like to me as well. I loaded it into Vim in the hopes of attempting an edit (regex search / replace), but the structure was too convoluted in terms of the file itself. Besides I didn't see anything in the registry itself that looked likely, so I probably wouldn't know what to change even if I could reliably do it in the file.

No matter - I was listening to some music last night while I just plodded through each and every item, manually changing each one. 8) ...probably because it was Friday night and after this week at work, that level of intellectual endeavor was about right for my tattered mental state. :wink: The settings are kept in the workplace preferences, but I didn't see anything likely in the registry. Loading a different workplace affects their visibility.

I noticed if an item appears twice (e.g., in a stock menu as well as a custom one), changing one took care of both. I suspect they're implemented as one struct (or class) per item with pointers to it for duplicates. Setting the icons to visible also revealed a design flaw in the menus themselves: For toggle items where a check mark appears when enabled, the icon now covers the checkmark. Those two functions need to be separated somehow.

Related question: Is there a reference for command line parameters? Specifically, can I set the workplace from the command line (i.e., have different icons for different layouts)? I've Googled but found nothing so far.

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Re: No icons on menus? (X6)

Post by LeviFiction »

You should have taken a snapshot of the registry before turning on the icons and then done a comparison. xD

As for the icon covering the checkbox, I don't think it's a design flaw, I think i twas on purpose. You'll notice that the icon becomes highlighted. The Rule, Grid, and Guides are a perfect example the whole icon gets highlighted with no checkmark behind it. Suggesting this was intentional.

I have never actually found any commandline references, so no I don't. I do know that you can setup 'scriptlets' where you setup the icon for PSP to run a script when an image is dragged ontop of the icon. But other than that and normal image opening I don't know of anything specific. Sorry.
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Re: No icons on menus? (X6)

Post by lphilpot »

Re: Icons vs. toggles - You're exactly right. I noticed the grey background behind an enabled toggle but just assumed it was part of the icon design. I was too braindead to toggle it. :wink:

I've noticed a couple of times after changing to one of the other tabs (Manage, Adjust) and come back to Edit, my workspace isn't fully loaded. Much of it is correct, but until I explicitly reload the workspace, not everything is as I saved it. Until (if) I track down what's causing that I've just added buttons to load/save the workspace to a handy toolbar. Actually I'd like to hide the other tabs (since I don't use them) just to prevent accidentally clicking, but that's not possible AFAICT. I use FastStone Image Viewer (http://www.faststone.org/FSViewerDetail.htm) for image management, review, etc. It makes a good central dispatching center for image ops since I can tie in several programs and it's far faster than PSP for that kind of use.

It's kind of intersting - I've been using PSP off and on since about v3 or v4 (can't recall for sure; back when I was also using CorelDRAW 2.x) and there's still a surprising amount of legacy code that shows up here and there, or at least 'legacy design' in the UI (e.g., File Format preferences). It's a hodge-podge to some degree. Kinda like MS Office - The skin has changed, but a lot of the old internal organs are still around. :)

Thanks for the help.
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