Effect fadeout after first 3 seconds

[rew]

Hi, Forgive me if this is a repeat, I searched and could not find an answer.

I would like to take a 60 second AVCHD clip and start out in "old film" and "fade" or diminish into the native (i.e. no FX) after about 3 seconds, so the FX are completely gone by 5-6 seconds from the beginning.

This is fairly popular, and I cannot seem to get it to work with the FX.

If there is a video would be great, but written instructions would be helpful also.

Also applying this to other FX, I would like to fade an effect in and out in the middle of a long video, like go to inverse for 2 seconds and then go back.

Thanks for any help,
REW

[aussiejoe]

read up about using "keyframes" they are what is used to create transitioning of effects
cheers

[rew]

Thanks for the quick response.
I tried the key frames and could not get them to do it. I searched help several times and only found basic use of keyframes. From what I gather, they appear to merely adjust the effect, not allow you to fade the effect out.
If there is a way to do it, please let me know.
Thanks again,
REW

[BrianCee]

I don't think I would be messing about with keyframes for that sort of effect myself.

I would cut (but not remove) the original video around 5 or 6 seconds (your choice) then put the 'old film' FX on the first segment and apply a 'crossfade' transition across the join making it as long as you want - bearing in mind that it is impossible to make it longer than you first clip - then your video will start in old film and fade back to normal.

Incidentally on the subject of keyframes - yes they do allow you to change the characteristics at any one point - but you can move those points and add as many extra as you want so that at each point in the video it behaves as you have set with a gradual change between keyframes.

[canuck]

Try this..

1-put your clip on the main track
2-put the same clip on the overlay track
3-select the overlay track and split the clip at the 5 second mark
4-add the Old Film effect to the left segment of the overlay clip
5-double click the overlay clip and select fade out
6-you can delete the right segment of the overlay clip if you want

Now when playing the project, the video should start out with the Old Film effect applied and the effect should slowly fade out so that by the 5 second mark the “new” video plays

[rew]

Thanks for the responses.
Good instructions.
I was afraid I would have to do it with a duplicate track. It would be nice if keyframes allowed you to fade the effect out instead of keyframes just allowing changes to the effect.
It would seem many folks would like to start out a scene in B & W and fade into color by a simple application of an FX, set a fade point, a time-to-fade and be done. Same with many FX I can think of: Old Film, Cartoon, etc.
Maybe it is something that Corel could make available on future versions.

BTW, there are some FX that have "fade In" and "Fade Out", which I also tried to get to work, but they did not work the way I expected. There is not much instruction on exactly how to use these. Can anyone point me into the right direction on how to use this feature? Is this a fade out of the effect or what? Do you use keyframes with the fadeout? why is it not available on all FX?
Thanks again folks, I really do appreciate it.
REW

[aussiejoe]

Hi Rew,

Based on what you describe, Keyframes are what you need to use

heres a basic rundown on how they work

http://www.brighthub.com/multimedia/vid ... 27566.aspx

In VS, once you apply a filter FX, click on customise filter and this takes you to the screen where you can play with keyframes to have the various components of the filter applied and unapplied

cheers

[rew]

Thanks Canuck,
In step 5 you say double-click the overlay and select fade out.
When I double-click, I get the FX window and the only fade out is for the motion effect, and this does not fade out the clip. could you be more specific?
Thanks,
REW

[rew]

Thanks Assiejoe,
In your link, I went to follow the working example and it says: "1. Start off by dragging an image to your timeline. Right-click anywhere on the clip and select Open Options Panel."
When I right click (using VideoStudio X7), there is no option to "Open Options Panel"
So I am stuck.
Let me know where to find this.
Thanks,
REW

[canuck]

Thanks Canuck,
In step 5 you say double-click the overlay and select fade out.
When I double-click, I get the FX window and the only fade out is for the motion effect, and this does not fade out the clip. could you be more specific?
Thanks,
REW

Did you select the "Fade out" (the icon with decreasing bars) for the motion effect? That is the one you want.

[aussiejoe]

Hi Rew,

The link was just to give you an idea of what can be done with keyframes

In my post i mentioned "In VS, once you apply a filter FX, click on customise filter and this takes you to the screen where you can play with keyframes to have the various components of the filter applied and unapplied"

So, if you have a clip loaded in VS7
click on the FX button and drag say the Monochrome" filter onto the clip, double click the clip and you will see the option to "customise filter"
click on this and you will be on the screen that can use keyframes.
as an example, drag the slider to the mid point on your clip, hit the button with the + symbl on it (add keyframe)
select "monochrome color" pick pink (why not)
play the clip and you will see the color fade in/out around the insertion point.
you can add more keyframes to taylor the effects to your liking
other filters have more options to choose from, this is just a simple one.
Im no expert on keyframes at all, just takes trial and error and a bit of patience.
cheers

[BrianCee]

I did the sample here using the method I described above - all on one line - no key frames

Am I missing something rew - is this not what you want - why are you so intent on using key frames - explain to me what is wrong with this sample please then I may be able to help you.

http://youtu.be/tL8sChEwiBw

[canuck]

Brian,

because of the "crossfade" the 2 clip segments are overlapped which is not really what the poster wants I would think. Also if the clip has any audio, the audio is also overlapped and becomes distorted.

Using my method, there is a smooth transition from the "old film" to the full color video without any "distortion" of video or audio.

[BrianCee]

Ah yes - but I did think of that when making my sample so I modified my procedure just a little bit.

First decide that the crossfade will last 3 seconds.
put the video in the top track and cut it at 6 seconds - delete everything to the right of the cut - apply 'old film' to the 6 second clip.
put the video in the top track again and cut off only the first 3 seconds
now when you put the crossfade across the join it is the same piece of video which overlaps - so the audio plays smoothly and overall the video stays exactly the same length,