How to work with "nonstandard" GoPro Resolutions in X7?

[Smeagle]

Hi,

I'm searching for a tool to cut and edit my GoPro 3 black Footage...

I record in 1920x1440/48P. I would like to output the same format as my original videos, but it seems not to be possible...

I can't even scale down to 1080P without black bars on the side of the video...

Is there a way around this? Can't find one...

Thanks,
- Oliver

[lata]

Hi Oliver

Welcome to the forums

The black bars you see may be the unused sections of the preview screen, not a problem. I see a small bar left and right of my screen, that is not part of the video.

First change the background colour to anything but black F6 ( preferences-background colour.) Now you will see the frames screen size, it should be widescreen 16:9

I don’t use 1440 format so don’t know how it works with VS, but it should display in full widescreen screen 16:9..

Go to Preferences F6 and tick Show Messages when inserting First Video.
Now start a new project

Add / insert a clip to the timeline, you may see a window prompting you to match the project properties, choose ok/yes. Did you see that window.?

How does the video look now?

[canuck]

The source format aspect ratio is 4:3 (1920x1440 resolution) so it will have black bars in the 16:9 aspect ratio

[Ken Berry]

In other words, you should try changing the aspect ratio from the default 16:9 to 4:3.

See also my comments in your post in the Wish List thread at the top of this forum: http://forum.corel.com/EN/viewtopic.php ... 95#p286495

[Smeagle]

The source format aspect ratio is 4:3 (1920x1440 resolution) so it will have black bars in the 16:9 aspect ratio

Yes, exactly that.
Sorry to be not clear enough

I want 4:3 video. Resolution: 1920x1440. I cannot find a output format where I can enable 4:3 (apart for DVD) or change the resolution to some manual value. Every setting that produces "HD" or higher resolution seems to be fixed to 16:9.

This is what the camera produces:

http://youtu.be/DRCnHs3tREg

This is the best I could do with VideoStudio X7:

http://youtu.be/xvd_CmDseXw


I would REALLY expect the software to be able to set the project setting to the exact specs of the first original video. But I just get an error message.

It's a GoPro 3 black. Not some unknown camera...

- Oliver

[Ken Berry]

Have you ticked the box in Preferences > General beside "Show message when inserting first video clip"? That should produce a message asking if you want to match the Project Properties to those of the first clip? Or is that when you get the error message? If so, what exactly does that error message say?

As I said in your Wish List post, I don't use your 1920 x 1440 size video from my Hero 3. However, I just happen to have some Hero 3 footage in 1280 x 960 which, like yours, is 4:3. And when I insert the first clip, I got the message asking if I wanted the Project Properties to match. I said yes, and the Project Properties were adjust to precisely those of the video. And I have produced new video from this original using both Share > Create Video File > Same As First Clip, as well as Same As Project Properties.

[lata]

Hi

Although your video frame is 1920 x 1440 it should be widescreen, to achieve this Non Square Pixel Rendering will be applied to the video clip.
It is difficult from the samples to say if it is 4:3 or 16:9 but I would expect 16:9.

If you set Video Studio to use 16:9 widescreen your video should look like the second section of the second sample, widescreen 16 :9
How did you manage to create that second section?

Can you provide a sample so we can download and try on our computers.
One drive, aka skydrive from Microsoft live will allow you to upload a sample, simply provide us with a link.
https://onedrive.live.com/

But as we have mentioned setting Show Messages from F6 should match the video file and set the project properties correctly.
Please start a new project before adding your clips.

[Smeagle]

Hi Iata,

no, it is and should be 4:3. Square Pixels.

Thanks for the offer to look at it! I just recorded a short, silly video for you and uploaded it to my webspace:

http://vaross.de/GoPro1440P48.MP4

Hi Ken,

I'm answering your post in the other thread here, because I thinks it's better to discuss it in this thread!

I'm not interested in BluRay (don't even have a TV or a BD Player). My 30" Monitor has 2560x1440 Pixel, and that matches 1440 Pixel of the 1440P. I would like to record in 60Hz, but 48Hz is the max the GoPro will do. 30Hz is too slow, I need slow motion. Sadly 1440P/48 is the only good option for 4:3 video on the GoPro 3 black. And I want 4:3, because I want the maximum height possible and the sensor of the GoPro is 4:3. So when recording in 16:9 you will always loose height.

Yes, the resolution/framerate is not "standard", but it should be possible to configure VS for it, don't you think?

Thanks for your suggestions... But I tried both. And it won't work.

This is "Share > Create Video File > Same As First Clip" in German:

http://www.vaross.de/VS1.PNG

It can't "resize" the video to another format than 16:9. And I can't set the project to 4:3 manually. Get the error message "can't resize video...".

So I tried your other suggestion:

I was able to set the project to the corect aspect ratio and resolution! Yeah!

http://vaross.de/VS2.PNG

BUUUUT I still can't write it. I get the exact same error when trying to write the file.

I think, this is a bug.

And I STILL think, one should be able to enter non standard resolutions and frame rates manually.

Thanks for your input, though! Very helpful!

Regards,
- Oliver

P.S.: The forum did not allow me to post those photos in the text, so I added them as urls...

[Smeagle]

P.P.S.:

The translation of the error message:

Picture Size (1920 x 1440) of the video file is not the same as the settings and cannot be cut.
[18706:1.1]

I get this exact message in both cases discussed above.

My guess is, because the Profile still shows "1920x1080, 30p"... But I cannot change that.

Thanks,
- Oliver

[Ken Berry]

Yes, I see what you mean. I downloaded your test file and when I go to ouput with either Same As Project Properties or Same As First Clip, I get the error message that the frame format (1920 x 1440) does not match the settings and cannot be trimmed. I have no idea what settings it means, however. The Project Properties match those of the clip perfectly.

I did notice one strange thing, however. It's best illustrated in this screen grab.

Although the Properties of the file to be created are shown correctly, in the very first line it refers to a frame rate of 30 fps as opposed to the actual frame rate, also shown below that, of 47.952 fps. I'm afraid I can't explain that either.

The only other thing I can think of would be to convert the original video .mp4 to mp4 with the .mov extension using GoPro's own Studio editing program. Unfortunately, I don't have that program loaded on this computer, so cannot test this out immediately. But if you happen to have it, you might want to try that.

Incidentally, you can certainly upload photos here. When you are writing a post, look below the text box and you should see two tabs: Options and Upload Attachment. You choose the file you want to upload by browsing to it, then upload it by clicking the Add the File button, either in line or at the bottom of your post.

[skier-hughes]

Strangely enough I am working on a presentation for a company, that was recorded in 1024x768 8fps, 7kbps video and 19kbps audio, (made using webex screen capture then converted using an app I am not sure about to the mp4 I have) and I get exactly the same message when trying to save.
I have the normal message come up when inserting the video to the timeline, I click yes.
I do my editing, which makes it twice the length of the original movie.
I come to save it, choose same as project settings or same as first video clip and it tells me it should be about 7.19mb in size, which is about double the size of the original movie, but when I click on start I get the error message
The frame size (1024x768) of the video does not match the settings and therefore cannot be trimmed [18706:1:1] and the estimated output size is then displayed as 143mb!!

Ken, I have exactly the same, looking deeper, (NTSC non drop frame 30fps) at the top of my settings list, but the rest are right, even to the correct 8fps of the video.

I'm going to have a play to see what I can find.................

[skier-hughes]

I've tried with just the one video, so taken out every single edit etc and get the same result.
Started a new project, just added the one file, same result, apart from the estimated size went up from 3.8mb to 2.06GB
Turned off enable smart render, same result.
Made my own output template, same result.
Dropped a different file on the time line and tried to save it using my custom pre-set, same result.
Dropped one of the supplied wmv files on the timeline and tried to save it to my custom pre-set, same result

[skier-hughes]

I can use any, well I suppose any of the profiles supplied by VS, as I have tried 5 and all work ok.
I'm suspecting, it's baulking at the non standard output it is being asked to make, which makes a mockery of the same as first clip option!
I'm giving up and going to bed

[Smeagle]

Hi,

Thanks for all your input - so it seems, it's not just me and VS X7 has a problem with all resolutions and framerates which are not predefined?

I think, it is a bug.

How can we get this to development? Or do "they" monitor the forum?

Thanks,
- Oliver

[Smeagle]

Hi Ken!

I did notice one strange thing, however. It's best illustrated in this screen grab.

VS X7 1440.jpg

Although the Properties of the file to be created are shown correctly, in the very first line it refers to a frame rate of 30 fps as opposed to the actual frame rate, also shown below that, of 47.952 fps. I'm afraid I can't explain that either.

I think, "settings" refers to the line above your marked line: The Profile is 1920x1080P 25P. But I see no way to change that profile to 1920x1440 48P...

The only other thing I can think of would be to convert the original video .mp4 to mp4 with the .mov extension using GoPro's own Studio editing program. Unfortunately, I don't have that program loaded on this computer, so cannot test this out immediately. But if you happen to have it, you might want to try that.

Sorry, that's not an option. I produce lots of footage as the camera is not stopped normally and really don't want to convert everything first...

Incidentally, you can certainly upload photos here. When you are writing a post, look below the text box and you should see two tabs: Options and Upload Attachment. You choose the file you want to upload by browsing to it, then upload it by clicking the Add the File button, either in line or at the bottom of your post.

Yes, I tried that. But the system said, it couldn't get the resolution from my files and wouldn't accept the image. No big deal

Thanks again,
- Oliver