bug in handling raw

[flexy2]

how do I prevent Paintshops to edit a raw file every time I open it?
For a second, the image you see well, then the program apply a correction that is ALWAYS wrong and turns it into a mess.
The consequence is that I am forced to eliminate the correction before I can do anything.
it is highly annoying and if it were possible to prevent the program from making that initial correction would avoid wasting time.
What is with the files. crw canon that with. arw sony

[MarkZ]

I assume that the RAW editor opens when you open a raw file. Go to File/Preferences/File Format Preferences and make sure "Open RAW images with Camera RAW lab" is not checked.

[flexy2]

Even disabling camera raw lab does not change anything. If I open the file with ZoomBrowser (canon) or with PlayMemories (sony) photos are good. If I do it with paintshop for a few seconds at the beginning the colors are good, then the program applies a correction and they become bluish. Clearly it wrongs white balance, which I've noticed does not happen with adobe programs (I'm considering which one to buy)
The same happened with the X4 version of PSP that I bought and it was unusable with Raw.
In the transition to X6 there was no improvement !

How do I stop it from changing the white calibration automatically ?


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[df]

When I open a .cr2 file in Zoombrowser it looks different from PSE9 or PSP or Capture One Pro or Corel Aftershot Pro any other editor that I use. They all look different from each other. The only thing that has any chance of looking close to the embedded preview is Canon software. The reason is because RAW files are proprietary, and the camera manufacturers don't give out the secrets to the files recipes. Other editors have done a good job of mimicking settings on many cameras, but they usually are not exactly the same.

PSP however does look the darkest of all of the editors that I've tried. If you want .cr2 files to be the same as the settings you've set in camera you should use Canon's Digital Photo Professional. I can't comment on the Sony files.

I hope this gets through google translator okay.

[flexy2]

Thanks for the reply. I read English well, I have trouble writing it, so use google translator.

The problem with Corel PSP is that the program performs some form of processing when opening the raw file. If I open a folder with many files and I take one to end for a while colors are good and comparable to those of the canon and sony. Then as PSP gets to that file and process it destroys the color balance and exposure.
What I would like is that the PSP NOT do this but let me start processing the file as it is.
How can I disable that programmers believe it is an optimization when in fact turns my photos into a crap forcing an unnecessary extra work ?


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[df]

Actually what you're seeing when the file first opens is the embedded preview that the camera includes in the file. It's set there by the manufacturer so that Windows Explorer and the like can give you an idea of what the file looks like rather than having a generic RAW file icon that's the same for every single RAW file. PSP then reads the actual file and does little or nothing to it to present to you for your editing. Other software manufacturers probably do some standard modifications to the file upon import based on what they've researched about the various RAW files.

There is a few things that can help.
First thing that I can think of is that since you've just installed and are trying PSP you may not have changed the default Color Workspace. If it's the default sRGB then you're going to have things look different on the color scale of things. Click File> Color Management> Color Working Space. When the dialog appears change the Color Working Space from sRGB to AdobeRGB1998 or another gamut that's fuller than sRGB. Adobe products will have AdobeRGB active by default.

The next thing is if you find that you have to do the same things for all of your files you can easily record a script, and even have the script run when opening a file.

But in the end I'd encourage you to find a RAW editor that supports all of your cameras and use that. PSP is a pixel editor, and not intended for working groups of files. Photoshop Elements will be the same way. Corel has Aftershot Pro, Adobe has LightRoom, Phase One has Capture One, there's FastStone Image Viewer (free), or UFRaw (free), or DarkTable, or...
While you may find that one pixel editor or another treats all of your current files well, it may not be the same if you get a new camera. Where as a decent RAW editor should be quick to add new cameras. At least the good ones do. And when they do all of the tools and workflows that you've become accustomed to will react the same.

[flexy2]

Actually what you're seeing when the file first opens is the embedded preview that the camera includes in the file.

well, that's what I want, how do I keep this display without modification? It is identical to the image that give me the canon and sony programs while the PSP's modified is all busted

PSP then reads the actual file and does little or nothing to it to present to you for your editing.

No, the PSP makes heavy editing and wrong. Just open any raw to notice. These are changes that do not want to, that's all. How do I?

First thing that I can think of is that since you've just installed and are trying PSP you may not have changed the default Color Workspace.

I changed the color space to AdobeRGB1998, it was the first thing I did. Despite this, the picture becomes bluish and too contrasted

The next thing is if you find that you have to do the same things for all of your files you can easily record a script, and even have the script run when opening a file.

a paid software should NOT force you to do things that are reminiscent of the Scotch or the wire. I paid (version X4) for the management of raw too and I want that it works decently. If I have to put a script then I take a free program.

However, I realized: corel programmers have err raw program and there is no way to fix it. The same problem occurs with PhotoPaint X6 making the same mistakes when you open a raw file. The code will be the same and the same is the mismanagement. I imagine that the same happens with AfterShot Pro, so better avoid

I will buy one of the Adobe programs that get the same good results and unistall PSP X4 and X6

[flexy2]

Actually what you're seeing when the file first opens is the embedded preview that the camera includes in the file.

well, that's what I want, how do I keep this display without modification? It is identical to the image that give me the canon and sony programs while the PSP's modified is all busted

PSP then reads the actual file and does little or nothing to it to present to you for your editing.

No, the PSP makes heavy editing and wrong. Just open any raw to notice. These are changes that do not want to, that's all. How do I?

First thing that I can think of is that since you've just installed and are trying PSP you may not have changed the default Color Workspace.

I changed the color space to AdobeRGB1998, it was the first thing I did. Despite this, the picture becomes bluish and too contrasted

The next thing is if you find that you have to do the same things for all of your files you can easily record a script, and even have the script run when opening a file.

a paid software should NOT force you to do things that are reminiscent of the Scotch or the wire. I paid (version X4) for the management of raw too and I want that it works decently. If I have to put a script then I take a free program.

However, I realized: corel programmers have err raw program and there is no way to fix it. The same problem occurs with PhotoPaint X6 making the same mistakes when you open a raw file. The code will be the same and the same is the mismanagement. I imagine that the same happens with AfterShot Pro, so better avoid

I will buy one of the Adobe programs that get the same good results and unistall PSP X4 and X6

[MarkZ]

However, I realized: corel programmers have err raw program and there is no way to fix it. The same problem occurs with PhotoPaint X6 making the same mistakes when you open a raw file. The code will be the same and the same is the mismanagement. I imagine that the same happens with AfterShot Pro, so better avoid

I will buy one of the Adobe programs that get the same good results and unistall PSP X4 and X6

AfterShot Pro started as Bibble. Corel bought that company, tweaked the program and is selling it as ASP. The RAW engine is completely different than PSP, which started life as Jasc before being adopted. In my experience and what I have read in many postings in this forum the results from ASP are dramatically different than from PSP. Try the trial period before spending a fortune.

[df]

I will buy one of the Adobe programs that get the same good results and unistall PSP X4 and X6

Alright, good luck with your work.