New Year for AfterShot Pro...

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Re: New Year for AfterShot Pro...

Post by grubernd »

thanks for the updated info, Rick.
this sounds much better than your initial post.

well.. then we shouldnt keep Joseph from working, since he has all the infos he needs. ;)
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Re: New Year for AfterShot Pro...

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To late....to slow...!

I bought Lightroom 5.0 an delete ASP from my PC !
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Re: New Year for AfterShot Pro...

Post by getinline »

I think it's too late for me too, I've been using DXO Optics because it supports my Canon 70d. While DXO doesn't have the rich feature set of ASP, isn't as fast as ASP and it consumes more memory than ASP, it does render excellent images which is my most important criteria. I will keep my eye on ASP but I'm now processing with DXO, so switching back is doubtful at this point. Too bad, I really liked ASP.

Best of luck to the ASP team! They have a great product to work with, I just hope they get the executive support they need to focus on timely incremental updates and improvements.
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Re: New Year for AfterShot Pro...

Post by nipponichi »

For one year waiting for support of my Fuji X-E1 camera :evil:
It seems the switch from Bibble labs to Corel has had just one effect - a huge delay of any progress. Best example how to kill a good product.

I would prefer to have Bibble 4.9.5 (the first version I owned) with X-Trans support now instead of any vaporware with hyper-super-features.
The output of latest Lightzone beta version for X-Trans files looks very promising. Corel gives me enough time to check this in detail :twisted:
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Re: New Year for AfterShot Pro...

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grubernd wrote:thanks for the updated info, Rick.
this sounds much better than your initial post.

well.. then we shouldnt keep Joseph from working, since he has all the infos he needs. ;)

Well I would say that Joseph needs to take a little time out from what he is doing to provide ...
A Hello
An Update
A Road map of what is next
Timeframes for updates - Approximate - nearest quarter/year.

Corel are so bad at providing communication of intent and timescales.
Come on guys lets hear something.
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Re: New Year for AfterShot Pro...

Post by DocBrown »

Promises, promises.

Its been two years since it was announced that Corel acquired Bibble. Two years! And its still essentially the same software. I dropped it in the summer of 2012 and went to Lightroom. Haven't looked back. LR is now so far ahead of AfterShot, unless Corel makes some dramatic changes and releases soon, they will never catch up.

I still poke around here from time to time for entertainment value. In that I am never disappointed.
afx wrote:So far, Corel just confirms any negative stereotypes one can think of...

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Re: New Year for AfterShot Pro...

Post by john7 »

I agree with those who say its to late to save the program. I tried ASP found Corel were totally unchanged and were killing it. I then moved, after wasting the coast of the ASP program to DxO. It has problems, slow, resource hungry BUT its updated each month and produces good results.
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Re: New Year for AfterShot Pro...

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DocBrown wrote:And you stick with this product, why?
What makes you think that?
For more than a year now AS has been my download and do some images quickly tool, but not my prime raw engine.
Oh, yes. As I recall you have this devotion to a operating system that only a relative handful of people use.
I strongly suggest only talking about what you know.
My main imaging machine has always been Windows, because only there decent DAMs are available.
And in contrast to popular believe, there are far more Linux users out there than MacOS for example. And when one factors in all the mobile devices and servers, then Linux and derivatives are the most wide spread systems.

The frustrating part is that the basics of AS are still more efficient than any other tool out there, but without anyone working on the core engine and camera updates happening at glacial intervals, one has to work with tools that use ridiculously broken modal UI interfaces and crappy file handling.

cheers
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Re: New Year for AfterShot Pro...

Post by roland65 »

Hi,

perhaps you should know that Lightroom 5.3 now runs on Linux via Wine. See here: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35192
While not perfect, it's very usable and quite fast. I use it now as my main RAW workflow on Linux.
Have a nice day,
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Re: New Year for AfterShot Pro...

Post by lundbech »

One should definitely have a look at Lightzone. In a shorter span of time, than it took Corel to kill off ASP, they've managed to get Lightzone out (again), to get 35000 registered users on their website, a youtube channel with more tutorials than Bibble/Corel ever managed to put out. A very active community. And beta testing for next version is going forward beautifully.

One can only wonder what goes on in Corel. Even a basically one-man project (afaik) like Photivo manages getting out new versions faster than Corel.

The once every three monsths updates from Mr. Champagne does nothing to give an impression that anything is happening at all.

Sad really.
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Re: New Year for AfterShot Pro...

Post by 2Ben »

tundraquad wrote: $ sudo make devteam
then: $ sudo make birthdaypresent
,
Why the hell do you feel elevated privileges would be necessary for "making" anything ? Except a make install possibly.

Friends don't let friends use sudo unnecessarily.

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Re: New Year for AfterShot Pro...

Post by tundraquad »

ok 2Ben, thanks for the advise!
So, I should try:
$ do make devteam
$ sudo make install aspeasterbunny

Should it work better? Thanks!
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Re: New Year for AfterShot Pro...

Post by wachovius »

So nothing really happens at Corel, besides a random message that they are still alive and working on new stuff. That's really annoying.

Still my X-E1 / X-Trans-Sensor not supported, not a sign that it will ever be.

So this means goodbye ASP and welcome Photoninja.
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Re: New Year for AfterShot Pro...

Post by -cr »

Please do keep ASP alive, Corel!
Last week I had to use Darktable, to edit pictures out of a D610 and a D7100, two cameras ASP does not (currently?) support.
While the end results were nothing to sneer at, I didn't like Darktable's user interface at all! It also felt slower than ASP.
Keeping my fingers crossed that you'll get ASP on track again,
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Re: New Year for AfterShot Pro...

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-cr wrote:to edit pictures out of a D610 and a D7100, two cameras ASP does not (currently?) support.
please check your install, the D7100 works here.
-cr wrote:I didn't like Darktable's user interface at all! It also felt slower than ASP.
that's a feature. darktable uses "Filmrolls" in their taxonomy, so it is pretty obvious that they try to make your workflow as slow as possible to mimic the days when you had to wait for 45 minutes to look at a slidefilm. if you had access to an E6 lab. ;)
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