AfterShot Pro 2.0 Beta Update

[afx]

For me the main issue of Darktable is the lack of support for Fuji X-Trans, and it's not even on their roadmap... If I have to move to different software I prefer to have all my cameras supported.

Seems like your only chance is PhotNinja and Lightzone at the moment.
And they have the benefit of a more usable UI than Darktable

cheers
afx

[EOS]

For me the main issue of Darktable is the lack of support for Fuji X-Trans, and it's not even on their roadmap... If I have to move to different software I prefer to have all my cameras supported.

You mean this cam?
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilm-x-pro1

Darktable opens the RAF nice:
http://users.telenet.be/photo-memories/ ... X-Pro1.jpg

[t3mujin]

For me the main issue of Darktable is the lack of support for Fuji X-Trans, and it's not even on their roadmap... If I have to move to different software I prefer to have all my cameras supported.

Seems like your only chance is PhotNinja and Lightzone at the moment.
And they have the benefit of a more usable UI than Darktable

cheers
afx

I'm not a fan of Lightzones' UI, but I already have PhotoNinja installed and it's my probable alternative for now.

For me the main issue of Darktable is the lack of support for Fuji X-Trans, and it's not even on their roadmap... If I have to move to different software I prefer to have all my cameras supported.

You mean this cam?
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilm-x-pro1

Opens but you can't do anything because Darktable doesn't support demosaicing of non Bayer sensors.

Darktable opens the RAF nice:
http://users.telenet.be/photo-memories/ ... X-Pro1.jpg

Opens but you can't do anything with it, Darktable doesn't support demosaicing of non Bayer sensors (http://www.darktable.org/2012/10/whats- ... w-cameras/)

[EOS]

Opens but you can't do anything with it, Darktable doesn't support demosaicing of non Bayer sensors (http://www.darktable.org/2012/10/whats- ... w-cameras/)

i don't find it "can't do anything"
but true, maby convert to dng ?

http://users.telenet.be/photo-memories/ ... Pro1-1.jpg

[t3mujin]

Opens but you can't do anything with it, Darktable doesn't support demosaicing of non Bayer sensors (http://www.darktable.org/2012/10/whats- ... w-cameras/)

i don't find it "can't do anything"
but true, maby convert to dng ?

http://users.telenet.be/photo-memories/ ... Pro1-1.jpg

Converting to DNG could be an alternative, and I checked yesterday that Adobe has a beta with support for X-E2 and it works really fine. Another option to my list.


One thing I'm just realizing is that even with it's flaws and limitations (specially in managing keywords) AfterShot still is the best option for photo asset management for Linux.

[t3mujin]

Opens but you can't do anything with it, Darktable doesn't support demosaicing of non Bayer sensors (http://www.darktable.org/2012/10/whats- ... w-cameras/)

i don't find it "can't do anything"
but true, maby convert to dng ?

http://users.telenet.be/photo-memories/ ... Pro1-1.jpg

Converting to DNG could be an alternative, and I checked yesterday that Adobe has a beta with support for X-E2 and it works really fine. Another option to my list .


One thing I'm just realizing is that even with it's flaws and limitations (specially in managing keywords) AfterShot still is the best option for photo asset management for Linux.

[loe]

Bibble used to be real fast with updates on new cameras. Even though I didn´t upgrade for the last 4 years, I now switched to an EM-1 and needed a raw converter that would support it. Since I dislike the kind of software Lightroom (eventhough there are some features in it I´d like to see in ASP as well) represents, I looked elsewhere and found Iridient Developer (working on a Mac). It is a very good programm that I came to like quite fast.
It handles the EM-1 files quite well and give almost the same core functionality as ASP.
So I paid the small fee that they ask for and am now happy as before with ASP. The few things that are missing I can do with JPGs in ASP if I wish....

So sorry Corel, if you dont come up with a rather intruiging update soon which supports newer cameras as well, I guess I will have adopted to a new shiny programm.

Same problem here.. With my new EM-1 ASP became useless.

[GoremanX]

I know this has already been mentioned, but it bears repeating:

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE add support for generic DNG files!!! It's so aggravating getting a new camera that happens to generate DNG files, only to be unable to edit those files in AfterShot because of some arbitrary limitation. Breaks my entire workflow. It's the best way to drive people to using alternative software. I've gotten much better at using Lightroom since I got my new Pentax K-3...

[scorpi11]

I hope that the hype over HSA, which is useless for all the people with their nice Intel Core i* boxes, doesn't leed to all the known and annoying bugs staying alive. For instance, the catalog feature is utterly broken and hard to use for me, and I don't think I have such an uncommon workflow. In some points the old Bibble 5 catalog works better, or even Bibble 4 (e.g. it was able to handle JPEG+RAW as one image). To me, it looks like many people don't bother with the catalog for such reasons and just use the filesystem mode.

Rick, it would be nice if you can comment on changes in the catalog for ASP 2.0. Feel free to contact me about the annoyances with the catalog I collected. I think it is a key feature of a photo workflow software and shouldn't have such major issues.

[ferdinand-paris]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE add support for generic DNG files!!! It's so aggravating getting a new camera that happens to generate DNG files, only to be unable to edit those files in AfterShot because of some arbitrary limitation. Breaks my entire workflow. It's the best way to drive people to using alternative software. I've gotten much better at using Lightroom since I got my new Pentax K-3...

The old Bibble Labs staff said that this would never happen, and while I don't recall their precise reasons they did have some, so they would say that it's not arbitrary. If the people who designed and understand the program weren't prepared to do it, I really can't see Corel trying it. My advice would be to keep practising LR.

[afx]

They did not have the resources to profile every camera twice which would be needed to really support converted DNGs properly. I think unprofiled DNGs can be useful in a transition period, but I guess they had some reservations about those as well.

cheers
afx

[mark9]

Thanks Rick, good to hear an update here. I look forward to seeing where things are moving.

Like some of the other folks expressing their opinions here, personally I am most interested in a really robust and reliable set of basic image operations with a good UI to them operating on sets of images. That's actually what gives me the most 'speed', and I almost only use colour, crop + sharpen and the occasional localised layer Bugs like deadlocks are still there and really can come at inconvenient times, too.

I do worry that things like OpenCL and GPU could be a distraction, though I note that you don't say this is the only thing being worked on. But I do wonder if there could be bigger gains in image operations (for the same effort) by, for example, ensuring more of the image processing is previewed on the screen-resolution images (and which would help all users, including those on very modest systems) Of course I only hypothesise as I don't know about the ASP internals, but sometimes I wonder if Bibble 4 feels faster for these reasons.

I'd be interested in beta testing on Linux, though this is probably not the place to ask.

Thanks again, and I look forward to seeing the progress in the other non-GPU areas! Fingers crossed.

[boBBrennan]

......and now another month has passed, I agree with so many others, we need an ASPro update so we can continue processing new camera data, mine is Olympus E-M1 RAW.

I am a MAC user and a user of the software dating back to Bibble v1 and the most important part of updating is staying as current as possible for processing camera RAW data.

Having had a 48-year career in business IT I know it is impossible to satisfy all regarding code changes but when the mainstream premis of ASPro is to process camera RAW data it should follow that it is a most important reason for updates. The program has always been good, dating back to that v1 of Bibble and it continues to be good (better than most IMO) but NEEDS camera RAW data updates much more often than we see.

COREL competition bothers to get it done, why can't COREL meet the competition in the most elementary of the code...... modify the existing ORF code to the minimal changes to E-M1 ORF code.

Let us see something soon for RAW; beta testing for complete version change is not a requirement to the simplicity of making the program work for us who are waiting and having to find alternative software OR having to modify our work schema to get by until sometime another 6-months or so from now.

Thanks and let us hear that COREL is interested to address the current needs of ASPro customers.

Bob Brennan
Arlington, TX

[john7]

With some time on my hands I have removed ASP as its been killed off by Corel.
I have been using DxO and in the last few months its added many new cameras and lenses while Corel have posted occasional statements on producing a new version but never actually producing any thing.
I view buying ASP earlier this year as real wast of time and money which given the past history of (I used Coral Draw for years and along with most users found there support and lack of bug fixes a nightmare then) Coral I should have better as they haven't changed at all.

[GoremanX]

Yeah, I agree with the previous poster. I stuck around for way too long in hopes that there would be improvement. I wasted my time and money on this, and have nothing to show for it except a huge back catalog of processed images which will forever require me to keep a copy of this software installed just so I can go back to them. Someday, this old copy of Aftershot won't install anymore, and all my work from the last few years will be lost. My current camera is unsupported, with no hope in sight of ever seeing it supported. I've been forced to migrate to a new workflow (and spend more money) just so I can continue working. Aftershot is the worst possible tool for working professional photographers, I sorely regret this choice and have learned to avoid all Corel products from now on.