No HD 30fps Option
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No HD 30fps Option
I have created a project using 1080p 29.97fps AVC MOV clips.
However, there seems to be no way to create a video file from the project using these settings. The options include neither 1920x1080 or anything but 25fps, and of course trying this results in choppy footage.
NB I did not choose either PAL or NTSC options when installing, as we will no longer use either of these in this country as of next year and I have no need to use them anyway.
Also I cannot install Ultimate as it says it is not compatible with this computer (Microsoft Surface Pro), only Pro.
Cheers,
Martin
However, there seems to be no way to create a video file from the project using these settings. The options include neither 1920x1080 or anything but 25fps, and of course trying this results in choppy footage.
NB I did not choose either PAL or NTSC options when installing, as we will no longer use either of these in this country as of next year and I have no need to use them anyway.
Also I cannot install Ultimate as it says it is not compatible with this computer (Microsoft Surface Pro), only Pro.
Cheers,
Martin
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Re: No HD 30fps Option
Well, what did you choose? If you chose a country -- and you HAVE to choose either a country or TV system -- the VS installation routine would have assigned whatever TV system is currently used in your unnamed country.NB I did not choose either PAL or NTSC options when installing,
You also don't say which version of Video Studio you are using. But if it is a recent one, it should most definitely offer various high definition outputs, which include 1080p at 50 or 60 full frames per second: Share > Create Video File > Same As First Clip would normally give you a new file with exactly the same properties as the original. But the same Share > Create Video File should also offer 50/60p under AVCVHD.
You can also choose Share > Create Video File > Custom, and choose MPEG Transport Stream Files (*.m2t) as the format. In the dialogue box which appears with three tabs, you change the Compression tab to use the AVCHD format...
Note that you should also enable 50/60p editing under Settings at the top of screen.
I can't help with your Ultimate problem. I thought the MS Surface Pro tablet used full Windows 8, but by the sounds of it, it uses a different version of Win 8. If that is indeed the case, I am not sure there is anything much anyone here can help with unless they too have a Surface Pro and managed to install the Ultimate package.
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Re: No HD 30fps Option
Hi Ken,
Thanks for your reply.
I didn't have to choose either; it just continued without requiring a selection.
Version is 6.
Choosing Share>Create Video File does not allow "same as first clip" to be selected.
Choosing Share>Create Video File>Custom>m2t does allow the correct frame rate and definition, but I cannot use that to create an MP4 file.
Yes, the Surface Pro uses normal Windows 8 Pro.
Thanks for your reply.
I didn't have to choose either; it just continued without requiring a selection.
Version is 6.
Choosing Share>Create Video File does not allow "same as first clip" to be selected.
Choosing Share>Create Video File>Custom>m2t does allow the correct frame rate and definition, but I cannot use that to create an MP4 file.
Yes, the Surface Pro uses normal Windows 8 Pro.
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Re: No HD 30fps Option
Do you need a file with the .mp4 extension for some particular reason? I trust you realise that .m2t AVCHD files are in fact mpeg-4 files made with the h.264 codec.
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Re: No HD 30fps Option
Ignoring workarounds, do you have any thoughts on why these options may not be showing? In other words, why does choosing to simply save a video file or upload to YouTube not only fail to allow that choice of "same as first clip", but default to low-definition files at the wrong frame rate and no option to stick to the parameters at capture!
Incidentally, changing the PAL and NTSC options, which should be irrelevant don't you think, brings up different frame rate options, i.e., one must use this drop-down box just to get at them. To me this is terrible software design, not to mention that PAL and NTSC are irrelevant to HD video.
Incidentally, changing the PAL and NTSC options, which should be irrelevant don't you think, brings up different frame rate options, i.e., one must use this drop-down box just to get at them. To me this is terrible software design, not to mention that PAL and NTSC are irrelevant to HD video.
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Re: No HD 30fps Option
Hi Martin
Pal or NTSC versions of Video Studio.
Generally everyone uses one of these options, I am in the UK and like Ken being from NZ would also use Pal.
If you wish to create a standard definition DVD or HD Bluray disc to play on a TV then it has to comply to either NTSC or Pal.
I cannot understand why your country would be dropping the international standard.??
If you were simply creating a video for the internet then yes that may not comply with the TV Standards.
When I install Video Studio the option for Ntsc is selected by default, I have to choose Pal which I can do by selecting my country. I assume this to be the same for all users. You say your video file uses 29.97fps so I would assume you to reside in a NTSC country so no need to change that option during installation, by the way where do you live.??? As you did not choose an option I assume your Video Studio was installed as NTSC, can you confirm this?
The programs settings/templates then take on Pal or NTSC by default. This is ideal for my needs and I assume for everyone else. I can still choose NTSC settings if I wished.
Same as First Video Clip
I have to agree that this option is a little misleading and does need addressing by Corel, as is Same as Project Properties.
But there are thousands of different video formats, many are tweaked by the camera manufacturers. Video Studio may be able to play most types but cannot and never will be able to edit all types, it is however able to read and edit a lot of video formats.
A new camera will be made tomorrow, probably using a tweaked format, leaving the video Editors playing catchup.
So when using Same as First Clip view the next window, this shows the conversion properties in the lower panel, make sure they are the same as your video file.
If Video Studio can recognise your video correctly then the properties will be correct.
If they are wrong then choose another option.
Video Studio provides a Make Movie Templates Manager allowing you to create your own template.
If Corel were to provide all options for all videos in the world the list would fill your screen, so they provide the most used templates. and yes that list may need updating.
Can you give full properties of your video file, right click a clip in the timeline and select properties, what are they?. Create an image of the window and attach to your post.
Out of interest what camera was used to record the footage?
I assume you are intending to use the final movie on the internet and not burn a DVD. Is this correct?
Pal or NTSC versions of Video Studio.
Generally everyone uses one of these options, I am in the UK and like Ken being from NZ would also use Pal.
If you wish to create a standard definition DVD or HD Bluray disc to play on a TV then it has to comply to either NTSC or Pal.
I cannot understand why your country would be dropping the international standard.??
If you were simply creating a video for the internet then yes that may not comply with the TV Standards.
When I install Video Studio the option for Ntsc is selected by default, I have to choose Pal which I can do by selecting my country. I assume this to be the same for all users. You say your video file uses 29.97fps so I would assume you to reside in a NTSC country so no need to change that option during installation, by the way where do you live.??? As you did not choose an option I assume your Video Studio was installed as NTSC, can you confirm this?
The programs settings/templates then take on Pal or NTSC by default. This is ideal for my needs and I assume for everyone else. I can still choose NTSC settings if I wished.
Same as First Video Clip
I have to agree that this option is a little misleading and does need addressing by Corel, as is Same as Project Properties.
But there are thousands of different video formats, many are tweaked by the camera manufacturers. Video Studio may be able to play most types but cannot and never will be able to edit all types, it is however able to read and edit a lot of video formats.
A new camera will be made tomorrow, probably using a tweaked format, leaving the video Editors playing catchup.
So when using Same as First Clip view the next window, this shows the conversion properties in the lower panel, make sure they are the same as your video file.
If Video Studio can recognise your video correctly then the properties will be correct.
If they are wrong then choose another option.
Video Studio provides a Make Movie Templates Manager allowing you to create your own template.
If Corel were to provide all options for all videos in the world the list would fill your screen, so they provide the most used templates. and yes that list may need updating.
Can you give full properties of your video file, right click a clip in the timeline and select properties, what are they?. Create an image of the window and attach to your post.
Out of interest what camera was used to record the footage?
I assume you are intending to use the final movie on the internet and not burn a DVD. Is this correct?
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Re: No HD 30fps Option
Hi Trevor,
Thanks for the template suggestion. I will check that out.
I am in NZ and analogue TV broadcasting will end in a few months, so we won't use the PAL system anymore. Back in the day most TVs sold here were compatible with both PAL and NTSC. Similarly, most DVD players were region-free.
I didn't think Blu-Ray uses PAL/NTSC (composite SD analogue video)? I imagine making PAL/NTSC DVDs would be a niche nowadays, so it seems weird that it is so pivotal in the UI for this software. What I am doing with this particular video is a) uploading to YouTube, and b) putting the video on a server so that users in restricted countries such as China can still download and play the file.
This video was shot with the Fujifilm X10. I thought this would be is a pretty common consumer-grade type of file so wasn't expecting any of these problems. Properties:
QuickTime Movie Files
1920 x 1080
AVC Coding
24 bits, 1920 x 1080
29.970 frames/sec 16-bit Little Endian
48.000 KHz, 16 bits. Stereo
Putting this video together in Windows Movie Maker presented none of these problems, so it's a shame that an NLE makes it so hard.
I reinstalled and on review what did the first time was to select my country as I note it asks for either location or analogue broadcast video system, not both. Although I skipped the system selection, I see now that it would not have been required.
Cheers,
Martin
Thanks for the template suggestion. I will check that out.
I am in NZ and analogue TV broadcasting will end in a few months, so we won't use the PAL system anymore. Back in the day most TVs sold here were compatible with both PAL and NTSC. Similarly, most DVD players were region-free.
I didn't think Blu-Ray uses PAL/NTSC (composite SD analogue video)? I imagine making PAL/NTSC DVDs would be a niche nowadays, so it seems weird that it is so pivotal in the UI for this software. What I am doing with this particular video is a) uploading to YouTube, and b) putting the video on a server so that users in restricted countries such as China can still download and play the file.
This video was shot with the Fujifilm X10. I thought this would be is a pretty common consumer-grade type of file so wasn't expecting any of these problems. Properties:
QuickTime Movie Files
1920 x 1080
AVC Coding
24 bits, 1920 x 1080
29.970 frames/sec 16-bit Little Endian
48.000 KHz, 16 bits. Stereo
Putting this video together in Windows Movie Maker presented none of these problems, so it's a shame that an NLE makes it so hard.
I reinstalled and on review what did the first time was to select my country as I note it asks for either location or analogue broadcast video system, not both. Although I skipped the system selection, I see now that it would not have been required.
Cheers,
Martin
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Re: No HD 30fps Option
Hi Martin
First when your TV system is upgraded to Digital from Analogue the TV standard of Pal or Ntsc is still retained.
You are in NZ which uses Pal, with a frame rate of 25fps / 50fps.
Changing to Digital is not going to change that rate
Ntsc will still use 29.97 / 60fps
Your original properties use 29.97, now that is Ntsc.
Again you are in NZ using Pal.
Changing the frame rate from 25 to 29 or visa versa is gonna impact on quality.
There will be no intermediate/single standard, pal and ntsc will exist at least for the next ten years or so.
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Martin.....
Given that Pal and Ntsc are not gonna change can you confirm which option you have installed Video Studio to.
Then we can be sure when we advise to use a particular template that it is correct for your video file.
How….
Run Video Studio
Go to Settings Project Properties (Alt + Enter)
View the details in the lower panel
Do you see Pal or NTSC mentioned
First when your TV system is upgraded to Digital from Analogue the TV standard of Pal or Ntsc is still retained.
You are in NZ which uses Pal, with a frame rate of 25fps / 50fps.
Changing to Digital is not going to change that rate
Ntsc will still use 29.97 / 60fps
Your original properties use 29.97, now that is Ntsc.
Again you are in NZ using Pal.
Changing the frame rate from 25 to 29 or visa versa is gonna impact on quality.
There will be no intermediate/single standard, pal and ntsc will exist at least for the next ten years or so.
Post Updated
Martin.....
Given that Pal and Ntsc are not gonna change can you confirm which option you have installed Video Studio to.
Then we can be sure when we advise to use a particular template that it is correct for your video file.
How….
Run Video Studio
Go to Settings Project Properties (Alt + Enter)
View the details in the lower panel
Do you see Pal or NTSC mentioned
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Re: No HD 30fps Option
Just re-inforcing what Trevor said - here in the UK our last analogue TV stations were switched off over a year ago and the whole country is now digital - but we all still use PAL - as we will for many years to come.
Having just purchased an expensive HD PAL digital TV I really hope that PAL is going to stay for a very long time yet.
one of the main differences between PAL and NTSC is frame rate 25/50 against 29.97/60 so even if you sort out field or progression you still have a basic difference
Having just purchased an expensive HD PAL digital TV I really hope that PAL is going to stay for a very long time yet.
one of the main differences between PAL and NTSC is frame rate 25/50 against 29.97/60 so even if you sort out field or progression you still have a basic difference
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Re: No HD 30fps Option
Hi Trevor,
I set it to "NTSC". Thanks again for offering to help.
PAL and NTSC are analogue systems. I believe that if it's not interlaced, analogue, composite video, it's not encoded in one of these ways. It seems Corel thinks everyone wants to make DVDs for CRT TVs.
I set it to "NTSC". Thanks again for offering to help.
PAL and NTSC are analogue systems. I believe that if it's not interlaced, analogue, composite video, it's not encoded in one of these ways. It seems Corel thinks everyone wants to make DVDs for CRT TVs.
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Re: No HD 30fps Option
Hi
Pal and Ntsc can be both analogue and digital, they are TV transmission standards.
Pal uses 25fps, NTSC uses 29.97 fps.
When you change from analogue to digital transmission the frame rate is retained.
Being in New Zealand your TV transmission will use 25fps.
Interlacing has nothing to do with the frame rate, yes you can render using Frame Based for most templates, and indeed the internet would use Frame Based
Video Studio provide templates using both Interlaced and Progressive (aka Frame Based) you choose the one to match your original video.
MiniDV type cameras are tape based, digital not analogue -- creating DV-AVI files that use Lower Field. (DV being Digital Video)
Your original video file uses Frame Based as the format is QuickTime.
If your original video file were Upper Field then you would retain that order when creating a new video file. Obviously rendering a video for the internet would use progressive (frame based)
Corel Video Studio provides many templates for HD video, and the means to burn not only DVD but Avchd and Bluray disc, clearly not destined for a CRT.
New Zealand will continue to use Pal, and if you live there you would be best purchasing a Pal format camera, at least that’s my humble opinion.
I cannot understand why you have chosen a Ntsc camera, but if that is now your main camera then installing Video Studio to Ntsc may be the correct option.
You can always use Make Movie Templates Manager to create other templates using Pal, that’s if you need to.
Pal and Ntsc can be both analogue and digital, they are TV transmission standards.
Pal uses 25fps, NTSC uses 29.97 fps.
When you change from analogue to digital transmission the frame rate is retained.
Being in New Zealand your TV transmission will use 25fps.
Interlacing has nothing to do with the frame rate, yes you can render using Frame Based for most templates, and indeed the internet would use Frame Based
Video Studio provide templates using both Interlaced and Progressive (aka Frame Based) you choose the one to match your original video.
MiniDV type cameras are tape based, digital not analogue -- creating DV-AVI files that use Lower Field. (DV being Digital Video)
Your original video file uses Frame Based as the format is QuickTime.
If your original video file were Upper Field then you would retain that order when creating a new video file. Obviously rendering a video for the internet would use progressive (frame based)
Corel Video Studio provides many templates for HD video, and the means to burn not only DVD but Avchd and Bluray disc, clearly not destined for a CRT.
New Zealand will continue to use Pal, and if you live there you would be best purchasing a Pal format camera, at least that’s my humble opinion.
I cannot understand why you have chosen a Ntsc camera, but if that is now your main camera then installing Video Studio to Ntsc may be the correct option.
You can always use Make Movie Templates Manager to create other templates using Pal, that’s if you need to.
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Re: No HD 30fps Option
I think Corel is helping to confuse everyone re PAL and NTSC. These are strictly analogue, SD, composite video standards! All of these factors must be combined in order for the label to be correct.
Brian, I am sure your HDTV can play 60p signals as otherwise it would be incompatible with serious video and current games consoles. Here all TVs support both signals. Panasonic initially sold some TVs as "HD ready" which were only 50p compatible, and had to refund customers as they wouldn't work with the Xbox 360.
Digital broadcast can indeed be in the same frame rates as PAL and NTSC but outside of broadcast compatibility, 60fps is much more desirable than 50. I would never shoot at 25 and 50fps when I can shoot at 24, 30 and 60! I am not planning on being on TV LOL.
I cannot imagine ever wanting to produce an SD DVD, especially as I will never shoot at SD and would never be in a situation where only and SD display were available.
I'm going to try these templates so thanks again for the suggestions. I'm sure your good advice will be useful to other confused users as well so I will report back.
Brian, I am sure your HDTV can play 60p signals as otherwise it would be incompatible with serious video and current games consoles. Here all TVs support both signals. Panasonic initially sold some TVs as "HD ready" which were only 50p compatible, and had to refund customers as they wouldn't work with the Xbox 360.
Digital broadcast can indeed be in the same frame rates as PAL and NTSC but outside of broadcast compatibility, 60fps is much more desirable than 50. I would never shoot at 25 and 50fps when I can shoot at 24, 30 and 60! I am not planning on being on TV LOL.
I cannot imagine ever wanting to produce an SD DVD, especially as I will never shoot at SD and would never be in a situation where only and SD display were available.
I'm going to try these templates so thanks again for the suggestions. I'm sure your good advice will be useful to other confused users as well so I will report back.
