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Help for wedding "layers"

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Hello, I have after twentyfive years just converted to digital from film , having just installed Paintshop Pro X5 ultimate I wish to get some wedding "layer's" back in the old days the photo proofs I got back from the prossesors had the bride and groom in a wine glass etc, can anyone tell me how to get the masks to do this, or do I need to get another program.
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Re: Help for wedding "layers"

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I have never done this myself but it's definitely possible.

I watched this photoshop tutorial on it - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BpUOyVrEMU

And it worked, with some slight tweaking to be PaintShop Pro compatible.

There's also this photoshop tutorial - http://www.photoshopessentials.com/phot ... ine-glass/

Again, some very slight tweaking can make it work for PaintShop Pro.

I've recorded two of my own based loosely on those tutorials. But they aren't done rendering yet so it'll be a bit before they're available for show.
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Okay, my attempts at a tutorial are finally ready.

The first one is taken right from those two tutorials I posted above.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-o_RJvN_gk

Very simple, and you can see how very little difference there is between it and the photoshop method.

This next one....well essentially I went insane and tried to do something crazy. It's not bad but it's long and I don't think it's the result you're hoping for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0SLsh1s0Oo
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Re: Help for wedding "layers"

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LeviFiction,
Nice tutorial. Also, thanks for the tip about morguefile.com.

I took a slightly different approach because I wanted to use my new favourite tool -- a Luminance mask. It gives a very nice effect for the dark areas of the glass, more subtle and realistic than adjusting the underlying layer blending for the darks.

Here we go:
1. Open each image in PSP.
2. Copy the bride and groom image and paste it into the wine glass image as a new layer. Don't worry about size and position at this stage.
3. Close the bride and groom image.
4. In the composite image, hide the layer with the bride and groom's image.
5. Select the wine glass. I zoomed way in to the image and used the Freehand selection tool in "Point to Point" mode to ensure I got an accurate selection.
6. In the Layers palette, use Add Mask...Show Selection to isolate the image of the wine glass from its background.
7. Since the entire wine glass is still selected, simply switch the selection tool to "Remove" mode and get rid of the selection of the stem and base so that only the goblet part of the glass is selected.
8. Save this goblet selection to an alpha channel in case you need to recall this selection.
9. Show the layer with the bride and groom and, with the goblet selection operative, use the Layers palette to add a mask that shows the selection.
10. Now that the bride and groom are masked to the shape of the goblet, use the Pick tool on the b&g layer to move and resize it to fit nicely in the masked area.
11. At this point, your layers look like this:
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12. Duplicate the goblet mask layer, and drag the duplicate down to temporarily mask the wine glass.
13. Hide all the layers except the newly duplicated goblet mask layer and the wine glass layer. At this point your layers look like this:
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14. In the Layers palette, select the b&g layer (don't unhide it) and choose Mask...From Image, using the Source Luminance of the composite image to create a luminance mask for the b&g layer. Your layers now look like this:
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15. Show all the layers, and delete that temporary "Copy of Mask - Raster 1" mask. Answer "No" to the prompt about merging the mask layer before deleting it. Your layers now look like this:
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and your image now looks like this:
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16. You can delete the now superfluous goblet mask of the b&g layer and get rid of any unnecessary layer groupings.
17. If necessary, apply a Levels adjustment to the luminance mask of the b&g layer to bring in some of the highlights of the glass. This really depends on the original wine glass image -- if it had a nice gray area separating the white highlights, you probably won't need to do this adjustment and instead use the method of adjusting the blending of the underlying layer (as described in the tutorials) to bring in the highlights of the glass. For this image, I used these settings:
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18. Add a nice background of your choosing.

The final layers look like this:
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Last edited by photodrawken on Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Help for wedding "layers"

Post by dennisj100 »

Thank's for that, looks hard to do but i'll give it a go it's a pity theres not a set layer that you just slide over the original print.
Thank you for the quick reply.
Regards
dennis
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