Can MovieFactory record 6 hours to single sided DVD?

bruscol · Post by **bruscol** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:30 pm

I have a Media Center PC running Windows MCE 2005. I have various programs recorded, in various qualities of recording. Can I record any of them to DVD to hold 6 hours per DVD? I have a TiVo Based Unit with Burner and it handles 6 hours of programs without problem. The question is can MovieFactory and Win MCE 2005??? Thanks.

Lou

GeorgeW · Post by **GeorgeW** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:11 pm

I think that's one of the options in MF4

You could do it as long as your bitrates are set properly...

keithm · Post by **keithm** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:20 pm

It depends what you want to play the DVD on. I don't think most set top players will play a 6 hour single layer dvd (the bitrate is too low). There are other options but they won't always play on a standard player.

I think the most I have got is 2.5 hours, if the bitrate dropped below 3000 kbs my players wouldn't load the DVD.

There is X-DVD (don't know the spec and support) and C-DVD (chinese DVD) or even divx but again it depends on what you wnt it to play on

GeorgeW · Post by **GeorgeW** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:37 pm

As long as you authored it as a dvd, I don't see why it wouldn't work. I would go with mpeg-1 using VCD resolutions at ~1500kbps (CBR) -- audio will have to be ~160kbps (or less -- so either mpeg or DD audio).

Then there's some KDVD settings you could try (do a web search on kdvd).

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:25 am

George, I may be wrong, but I think that your DVD player will only play that if it is able to play VCD/SVCD format. Whether or not it will even recognize this format when burned to DVD media is anybodies guess. The quality would be so low that I wouldn't even attempt trying it.

GeorgeW · Post by **GeorgeW** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:19 am

Heinz, since it is within DVD Specs (mpeg-1, 352x240 or 352x288 NTSC/PAL, CBR up to 1856kbps, audio has to be 48khz), I think as long as the DVD Player can play home made DVD's, it should be able to play a dvd with these specs.

In fact, I've seen several standalone DVD recorders go to these settings (or similar) when recording in a 6-hour mode (onto DVD discs).

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:55 am

Have you actually seen this? If yes, I stand corrected. Somehow I thought for DVD you need mpeg2 files, not mpeg1. As I said before, I'm no expert.

GeorgeW · Post by **GeorgeW** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:27 am

not only have I seen it, I have done it

I don't go for the full 6-hours. I prefer to use 1856kbps video bitrate when using mpeg1 (that's the highest bitrate allowed for mpeg1 for DVD Video). In fact, if you have the "Do not convert compliant mpeg files" option checked in MF3 or 4, load in a test mpeg1 video with the specs I listed, and you will see that it does not re-encode them (because they are DVD Compliant). But if you encode 1 bit higher (say 1857kbps), you will see that the video gets re-encoded...

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:40 am

Thanks for sharing that with us George, I didn't know.

cablehead · Post by **cablehead** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:11 pm

I have burned a 10 episode season of The Trailer Park Boys on 1 DVD.

with background music and menus....no problems.

maddrummer3301 · Post by **maddrummer3301** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:02 am

George,

Isn't the mpeg1 spec frame-based?
That's neat to know because one can add a nice slideshow to a dvd
without using up to much room.
The VCD slideshow's I've made are pretty good considering the low
bit-rate. Actually they look great. The frame-size is a little small though
on the TV. So if the quality of the source pictures are good then the
slideshow should be adequate considering the low bit-rate.

My panasonic dvd recorder has a 8 hour recording mode.
Never tried it.
The 6 or 8 hour modes?
Maybe they are good for surveillance work ( or soap operas).

MD

bruscol · Post by **bruscol** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:19 am

The main reason I ask is that it is quite easy with my TiVo unit with built in DVD Burner - I am able to record to 6 hours without a problem - it takes less than an hour to burn a 6 hour DVD - have played it in my oldest DVD player without a problem - did not realize it would be such a hassle with a Windows machine - but I guess I should have expected that anything Windows based would come up short against a Linux-based TiVo unit.

At this point - if someone came up with a dual tuner 300 GB Tivo unit with built in burner I would take my HP z545 and use is for target practice. But what mystifies me is why the third party software for an MCE 2005 machine can't do what is childs play for a Linux machine.

Any suggestions as to software that would easily burn to 6 hours to one DVD without having to worry about bit-rates, etc- would be much appreciated.

Lou

maddrummer3301 · Post by **maddrummer3301** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:44 am

You can wait for "MovieFactory for MAC" when Macintosh start to use
the Intel x86 processors and ulead can port the x86 code.
That will be close to a unix/linux based kernel for you.

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