Bye Bye, ASP. I never loved you.

[ferdinand-paris]

I think it's good manners to say goodbye and I don't have a problem with it, especially a plugin developer who has put in a lot of effort.

Andrew, since we seem to spend a lot of time on this forum in recent days talking about other raw converters, how do you deal with the mess that C1 seems to make of your file system? I am having a look at it at the moment, and this is one aspect that I don't like at all. (As a user of another DAM I won't be using their catalogs, and in any case like those of ASP they seem rather buggy, from what I read. I propose to use as little of sessions as possible.)

F_P

[andrewj]

Hi FP,
The trick with integrating CaptureOne with other workflows is to only use sessions, and completely ignore catalogues. Also make sure you have set your working and output directory to be the same as the source image. Then when you have finished working on a directory of images, you have the RAW files and JPEGs (and possibly XMPs) in the top directory, and a CaptureOne subdirectory. This has a "cache" subdirectory - just delete this, as it takes up a lot of space and can be re-created at will if you need to work on those images again. The remaining directories contain all the settings, and if you move the image files and the CaptureOne directory together (e.g. to another machine or an archive area), then CaptureOne will happily remember the settings in future.

I hope this helps,
Andrew

[ferdinand-paris]

Thanks Andrew, I had worked most of this out myself, but asked just in case there was something I missed.

F_P

[lundbech]

"Bye Bye, ASP. I never loved you." you write?
Then why are you here, why not just walk silently off into the night? Do you really think the world cares about your loves, each of us has his own.
If your love lies elsewhere, then go there, be there, instead of wasting your precious time here.

I was hoping that those who were part of the Bibble community at its best might appreciate an update. I believed that those who used my plugins my appreciate an update. Judging from their very positive responses above that was correct.

If you cannot appreciate this gesture please just ignore this thread.
Andrew

I can appreciate the gesture, but I can not appreciate the title of this thread. I can not appreciate it to a degree that I had to respond. There is a HUGE difference between saying goodbye and moving on for whatever reasons you may have and moving on with a "Bye bye, ASP. I never loved you." Sounds bitter, malicious, from someone having wasted their time with something they never loved. Well, that's your problem really, not ours.

[andrewj]

At first I flirted with ACR, but she was inefficient and inflexible, and her complexion was completely the wrong colour. It was never going to work out.
Then I met Bibble 4. I liked Bibble 4, and praised her to anyone who would listen. But just when I was getting used to her, she left me in the lurch with shiny new cameras and no way to process their images.
She came back, now called Bibble 5. I grew attached to Bibble 5, and she's still part of my life, even if sometimes detail lurked in her shadow.
But then she disappeared again, to be replaced by someone less accessible, less flexible, less capable. She kept on breaking things which were dear to me, like the SDK. I didn't like ASP at all.
So I think the title is entirely appropriate!

[jknights]

I also use Capture One for my major RAW conversion and occasionally Lightroom and ACR.
I still use Bibble5/ASP whenever I can so I am in all camps.


From a DAM perspective the best DAM is on Windows (which I dont use any more) it is iMatch but Lightroom is also very good as long as you get it to leave everything where you have it in your filesystem. NEVER ingest your images into Lightroom.

From an image processing perspective for me Capture One does the best RAW job along with LIghtroom and ACR for the latest cameras but these all are slow compared to Bibble5/ASP. This is why the new initiative to add the latest cameras to ASP is so important. We dont want silly gaming stuff to allow/improve video GPU use. This is icing on a cake.