Project size
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Project size
I have been having a lot of trouble with a project that is about 4.96GB to burn to disc. I have adjusted the MPEG rate so that the project is much smaller, but when I burn it from the video file, the resulting disc keeps stopping when I play it on my DVD player. On my computer, it goes almost to the end but then the audio and video keep "catching" for about the last three minutes of the 1 hour 11 minutes. I am currently trying to create a video disc of part of the project, but it has reached 99% of rendering and then hung for several minutes. The task manager tells me that Videostudio was not responding. It has now finished. Can anyone explain these wierd occurences> I am using Video Studio X5
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Re: Project size
Can you give a little more detail please? Does the above mean that you finish your editing, and then select Share > Create Video File > DVD (or Custom to use the new bitrate)? Does this create the "video file" you mention, which would be a DVD-compliant mpeg-2...I have adjusted the MPEG rate so that the project is much smaller, but when I burn it from the video file, the resulting disc keeps stopping when I play it on my DVD player.
Or do you finish editing and go straight to Share > Create Disc > DVD, and when the burning module opens, do you alter the burning properties (i.e. the bitrate) there? Or do you just let the project file appear in the burning timeline and don't make any further adjustments. If you do that, then VS uses a sort of fit-to-disc process which I have never found very good.
The first workflow (Share > Create Video File > DVD) is what we normally recommend as you can first test the new mpeg-2 to make sure everything is correct. You then start a new project -- don't bother about giving it a name, the objective is merely to empty the timeline. Then go to Share > Create Disc > DVD, and when the burning module opens, the timeline should be empty. Insert your new mpeg-2, build the menu and burn.
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Re: Project size
Ken - thank you for your reply. I followed the recommended procedure, i.e. ceated the video file, but then imported it into Movie Factory 7 to burn the disc. As I said, the resulting file was 4.96GB - too big for a 4.7GB disc, so I changed the MPEG rate to 16:9 Good Quality (instead of High Quality. This reduced the size to about 2.5GB, from memory - but the resulting DVD won't play properly all the way through.
I then tried to burn using Videostudio X5. Again I reduced the MPEG setting but got a message that "There may not be enough room on the disc" -sorry, I cna't rememebr exactly what I reduced it to, but the second highest setting. I let it proceed anyway, but got an Unspecified Error 5:0:0 and nothing burned to the disc.
I have now split the project and am burning it across two discs, so that should work. I will let you know, hopefully later today.
I then tried to burn using Videostudio X5. Again I reduced the MPEG setting but got a message that "There may not be enough room on the disc" -sorry, I cna't rememebr exactly what I reduced it to, but the second highest setting. I let it proceed anyway, but got an Unspecified Error 5:0:0 and nothing burned to the disc.
I have now split the project and am burning it across two discs, so that should work. I will let you know, hopefully later today.
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Re: Project size
Tou mentioned that the project was one hour 11 minutes long. If so, when you produce the new DVD-compatible mpeg-2 using Video Studio, you need to use Share > Create Video File > Custom. In the new screen which appears, choose mpeg-2 as the output format. Most of the properties displayed for that will be correct for a DVD. But you have to click on the Options button and go into change at least one of two things.
First, a project that long would probably fit on a single layer DVD if you change the audio setting from LPCM to Dolby.
But just to be on the safe side, I would also think about changing the default bitrate of 8000 kbps down to 7500 kbps. This will still produce excellent quality, but with a combination of the two, should guarantee that the resulting file size (plus a menu) should fit on the disc. And that would be with either MF 7 or VX X5.
First, a project that long would probably fit on a single layer DVD if you change the audio setting from LPCM to Dolby.
But just to be on the safe side, I would also think about changing the default bitrate of 8000 kbps down to 7500 kbps. This will still produce excellent quality, but with a combination of the two, should guarantee that the resulting file size (plus a menu) should fit on the disc. And that would be with either MF 7 or VX X5.
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Re: Project size
You really need more than 5 GB of free hard drive space. As my rule of thumb, you should have at least 3 times the size of the DVD for free hard drive space. Strange things can happen when you run out of HD space, and sometimes you don't even get an error message.
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Re: Project size
Thanks for your help, Ken. I have followed your instructions to the letter and have found: When I did Share>Create Videofile>Custom, I did not get an option to change MPEG 2 as the output. However, I went in to change the LPCM to Dolby ans the bitrate to 7500, and saw that MPeg 2 was the setting. It was greyed out, so I couldn't have changed it anyway.
The project was rendered, reached 99% and then hung for an interminable time, with the program not repsonding. Eventually it woke up aagain and completed the rendering. I have often had this problem in the past.
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I created the new project and went throught the create disc process. When I reached the final burn step, it again told me that there was probably not enough space on the disc. I went into options and tried changing the MPEG settings. I tried DVD Video (16:9, Dolby Digital) now 4.35GB. I tried DVD Video (16.9), project now 4.94GB. I tried MPEG-2 but this changed the aspect ratio to 4:3, so that's no good. I'll try the first option above and see if that works.
Re the other reply, I have 15oGB free on the hard drive, so that is not the issue.
The project was rendered, reached 99% and then hung for an interminable time, with the program not repsonding. Eventually it woke up aagain and completed the rendering. I have often had this problem in the past.
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I created the new project and went throught the create disc process. When I reached the final burn step, it again told me that there was probably not enough space on the disc. I went into options and tried changing the MPEG settings. I tried DVD Video (16:9, Dolby Digital) now 4.35GB. I tried DVD Video (16.9), project now 4.94GB. I tried MPEG-2 but this changed the aspect ratio to 4:3, so that's no good. I'll try the first option above and see if that works.
Re the other reply, I have 15oGB free on the hard drive, so that is not the issue.
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Re: Project size
Hi
Note---Your profile to the right of your posts show the hard drive as 5 Gb.
Ken suggested 7500kbps, if the file is still to large reduce this further to 7000
Can you set your Project Properties to Edit File Format as Mpeg
Then choose the Edit button
Compression tab---
Set the properties to use 7000kbps.
Set the audio to Digital Dolby
General tab--
Set the Field order to match your video files field order
Display aspect as your video file.
OK to close the panel
From Share - Create Video File Same as Project Properties, this will convert the project to a DVD compliant Mpeg2 file.
Using Windows Explorer view the properties to see the files size, it should be lower than 4.3 Gb
Now start a new project, nothing in the timeline
Share Create Disc—Add media files-Add Video
Add your new Mpeg2 file. Not the VSP
Notice the green bar below the timeline, it should be green, no yellow and definitely no red.
Some thoughts
You seem to say that rendering stalls at 99% for a long time, what have you put on the timelines at the end of your project, maybe a title with a filter applied?
In your last reply you said you mentioned “Not enough space on disc”, this is probably misleading, I think you may have a clip that VS does not read correctly and does not know how large it is a corrupt clip. I guess a similar thought as above
Note---Your profile to the right of your posts show the hard drive as 5 Gb.
Ken suggested 7500kbps, if the file is still to large reduce this further to 7000
Can you set your Project Properties to Edit File Format as Mpeg
Then choose the Edit button
Compression tab---
Set the properties to use 7000kbps.
Set the audio to Digital Dolby
General tab--
Set the Field order to match your video files field order
Display aspect as your video file.
OK to close the panel
From Share - Create Video File Same as Project Properties, this will convert the project to a DVD compliant Mpeg2 file.
Using Windows Explorer view the properties to see the files size, it should be lower than 4.3 Gb
Now start a new project, nothing in the timeline
Share Create Disc—Add media files-Add Video
Add your new Mpeg2 file. Not the VSP
Notice the green bar below the timeline, it should be green, no yellow and definitely no red.
Some thoughts
You seem to say that rendering stalls at 99% for a long time, what have you put on the timelines at the end of your project, maybe a title with a filter applied?
In your last reply you said you mentioned “Not enough space on disc”, this is probably misleading, I think you may have a clip that VS does not read correctly and does not know how large it is a corrupt clip. I guess a similar thought as above
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Re: Project size
Thank you both for your helpful suggestions. I have followed them and burned the DVD successfully. However, when I tried to play it on my DVD player or on my computer, about three quarters of the way through the sound and the video started "stuttering" and then froze altogether.
I have given up and successfully divided the project into two parts and have no problems
I have given up and successfully divided the project into two parts and have no problems
