Videostudio X6 and 50p footage

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Videostudio X6 and 50p footage

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I have a Sony camera wich can record 1920x1080 50p.It's the absolute best quality that camera can capture. The raw footage looks marvelous. After open in Videostudio X6 it plays ok but the final disc blu-ray or avchd even on dvd format the footage looks juddery especially on pans and moving subjects.
Any ideeas ?
Thank you for yours responses.
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Re: Videostudio X6 and 50p footage

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Did you enable 60p/50p editing ("Settings >> Enable 60P/50P editing)

and what were the FULL properties you set for the file and the DVD when burning to disk ? - did you ensure the field order was unchanged throughout.




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Yes I have enabled 60p/50p editing. The FULL properties for DVD are:

MPEG files
24 bits, 720 x 576, 25 fps
Upper Field First
(DVD-PAL), 16:9
Video data rate: 8000 kbps
LPCM Audio, 48000 Hz, Stereo
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Of course your output will not compare to the original HD video: you output to standard DVD not to any HD format. This will of course reduce the video quality.

What format do you want?
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Re: Videostudio X6 and 50p footage

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Hi
Can you confirm if you have burned a Bluray Disc or Standard definition DVD.

A Standard DVD has to use 25fps and 720 x 576 frame size

A Bluray disc supports 25p –50i, it does not support 50p
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All I want to do is record in camera in 1920x1080 50p and then deliver to customers on blu-ray, avchd and dvd disc. I have burned the footage on blu-ray disc, and avchd on dvd disc, and dvd on dvd disc, but the movie played on standalone blu-ray player or dvd player is sill jerky.
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Each of the disc types you listed requires different settings. Did you do that?
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I am using 50p for quite some time. I know this problem. When creating a BD or an AVCHD disk from a 1920x1080 progressive footage, VS outputs a 1080i format by using two fields from the same frame and skipping every other frame. This results in halving the temporal resolution and the juddery replays when there is motion. You need to go for 1280x720p (BD only) or use another workflow to do the 1080p to 1080i comversion properly. I use "in camera" conversion(panasonic TM700) which takes one field out of each frame.
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Re: Videostudio X6 and 50p footage

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Erdna
I think you are right. My camera is Sony NEX-ea50, I am using videostudio for editing and because discs don't work for me I have tried to share the footage like "same as first video clip" and then insert in another encoder with same result. Tried to install Debug frameserver then import in other encoders. No succes. If you or anybody else have another workflow for 50p please post it.
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Re: Videostudio X6 and 50p footage

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gca,

can you upload a short 10-15 clip to a free webhosting site so that we can download it and play around with it? That way we are at least working with video as created by your camera.
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The clip was longer but i have inserted in X6 cut it and shared as "same as first video clip". The original extension was MTS but the VS changed it to m2t. Here is the link to download

http://we.tl/ewAbwIuPbC

If you need the original file I would upload again.
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The unprocessed file direct from the camera would be better. That way we can be sure that no precessing has been done. Perhaps you could make a short clip with your camcorder and upload that.

I don't really trust the "same as first video" option
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Here is the original material from card

http://we.tl/26qTdVZR4w
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Re: Videostudio X6 and 50p footage

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Hi
I have rendered the video to:-

Same as First Video Clip
DVD-slideshow to retain the progressive frame .(Frame Based)
Blu-ray H.264 (1920x1080, 25p)

All renders look ok, I have only viewed via Video Studio but on full screen. (Double click the preview window whilst playing the video.)

What options are you actually choosing to render the video.?
If you are interlacing that may be the problem.
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Re: Videostudio X6 and 50p footage

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Well, in timeline I have inserted some footage in 50p. In blu-ray burner a BD-RE disc then a DVD+RW and tried to make a disc in Blu format or avchd format or dvd format but the disc played in a blu-ray player standalone is still juddery when the subject is moving. Tryed in several blu-ray players Philips, Panasonic, Sony. Same thing. It seems that VS can not handle encoding 50p to 50i or 25i.
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