ProX5 burns OK to dual layer disks?

[cdoughertycd]

Ken, thank you so much for your explanation.

So I really didn't know what I was making, just shot the video with my Canon camcorder, did the edit and then just shared to video file MPEG4 HD, me in my dumbness thinking it was HD.

So from your explanation, if I render the video to MPEG-2 it might not hang up the burn with the lack of memory issue. I'll try that. At this point like you say I don't care about HD, most people who will get it won't notice it anyway.

I'll let you know if that works.

Did I kind of get the concept of HD versus MPEG-2 in the dual layer burn process?

Again, my apologies for my lack of knowledge. You all have helped so much.

Candy

[Ken Berry]

Did I kind of get the concept of HD versus MPEG-2 in the dual layer burn process?

Not really, I'm afraid... AVCHD is high def mpeg-4, of course. But there are other flavours of high def mpeg-4 (including .mp4, .mov and DivX and XVid, which call themselves .avi but in reality are a form of mpeg-4).

But more to the point, mpeg-4 can also be standard definition...

By international standard a video DVD *must* use standard definition mpeg-2 (though in some cases mpeg-1 is also permissible). But for international Blu-Ray standards, you can use high def transport stream mpeg-2, AVCHD and Microsoft's VC-1.

[cdoughertycd]

Ken, thanks so much for your patience with me on this. It must be a hair puller for you guys, my questions from dumbsville.

So, to try and get all the acts of this opera on a dual layer DVD, do you think I should render them first to "same as project settings", and try that, rather than the MPEG-4 HD. The only reason I picked MPEG-4 HD was because it had HD in the name. (I can hear you laughing.)

You can tell I really don't know what I'm doing when I pick a kind of file to render to.

Candy

[Ken Berry]

do you think I should render them first to "same as project settings"

The problem is: what exactly are you project settings? By default, they would probably be DVD mpeg-2 settings, yes, but the default in recent versions of VS is to use in those mpeg-2 settings the Field Order of Upper Field First. But your video appears to be originally DV-avi (after capture) and this is Lower Field First. I seem to recall your mentioning also an mpeg-2 setting of Lower Field First. And as has already also been said above, you MUST use the same Field Order throughout a project.

So first off you have to change the Project Settings if they have Upper Field First, to Lower. If they are already Lower and for DVD-compatible mpeg-2, then leave it at that.

And yes, I think overall it would probably be better if, after you finished editing, you choose Share > Create Video File > Same As Project Settings (if those settings reflect what I have just said above). Then when you have that new mpeg-2, start a new project. Don't worry about a name -- the objective is simply to clear the editing timeline. Then you select Share > Create Disc > DVD. The burning module will open and it should have an empty timeline. If there is anything in the timeline, delete it. Then use the Add Media button up in the top left to add your new mpeg-2. Click on the cogwheel Options icon in the bottom left of the burning screen and make sure the box beside 'Do not convert compliant mpeg files' is ticked. Build your menu and burn.

[cdoughertycd]

Hi Ken: Attached is a print screen of the captured video properties, and a print screen of the DVD burn project properties. Both show upper field first.

Today I have been able to burn 3 dual layer DVDs with project file rendered "same as project setting". On the 4th one I get a message about buffer underun or overrun. I did not print screen that message so don't have the exact wording right now.

But the good thing is I was able to burn the three.

Candy

[cdoughertycd]

Ken: Prior post was DVD burn properties. Here are the captured video file properties.

[skier-hughes]

You are burning a standard definition dvd dual layer disc.
Refer back to the making of dvd folders, which you'll save to your hard drive and then burn these to your dvd.

[cdoughertycd]

Graham, sorry I'm so dense on making folders for DVDs, have never done that or knew about making them and then burning from there, so ...

For me to understand, to start, I'm in the project having finished the edit, then go to "share" and then what? Can you do a quick step-by-step?

thanks so much,
I'll owe ya

Candy

[BrianCee]

OK - lets see what we can do.

Carry out all your editing exactly as you do now and when you have finished go to "Share >> Create Disc >> DVD" then make your menu and set the burn properties exactly as you have been doing BUT do NOT put a DVD in your drive.

continue through the create disc module until you come to the final screen - that's the one with the "Burn" icon in the bottom right corner.

If what you see looks like the first picture below then first click on the LEFT arrow to un-check the "create to disc" choice - then click on the right arrow I have ringed and your screen should now look like the second screen below.

When you see the screen in the second picture just above centre and you will see choices to "Create DVD folders" and/or "Create disc image"

now I have never used folders on a dual layer disc so I am not sure about the next bit - but this works with a single layer dis which is what I would normally use for a video under 2 hours long.

tick the "Create DVD folders" option and then click the "Burn" icon - the programme will take a while to create the folders - when all is complete close VideoStudio - then use windows Explorer to just copy the Video_TS folder which VS has produced onto a blank DVD - you can do this repeatedly with blank discs since you are only copying each time.

Alternatively

this is the method I prefer and the one I first mentioned a couple of days ago

again make sure the "create to disc" is un-checked

tick the "Create Disc image" icon and then click the "Burn" icon - VideoStudio will take a while to create an ISO file.

To use the iso file - open Videostudio completely empty and up near the top left corner of the screen click on "Tools >> Burn from Disc Image" - this will open a new window which allows you to browse to the iso file and copy it to a blank DVD - again since this is basically just a copying function it should not clog up any memory.

click on the image to enlarge it

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[skier-hughes]

and now you owe Brian Hope that's sorted it, if not let us know.

[cdoughertycd]

Yes, I owe Brian. Brian, thanks so so much for this instruction. I am going to try it tonight or tomorrow. Should solve my "not enough memory issue".

Candy

[cdoughertycd]

Hi Brian, thanks so much for the instructions. I tried both versions but could not get the DVDs to play. I'm thinking it might be a factor of dual layer DVDs? Anyway, going on to do editing on another project for a break. I can burn 2-3 at a time, burning directly to disk before memory gives out so I'll do that for now.

I signed up for the pay-for support and instruction Corel is offering and have signed up for a webinar on the the 23th. They ask what do you want to talk about and I put dual layer burning. Will see if they have any insights. I'll report back.

Candy

[canuck]

Candy,

you say you tried both methods. Did you get to play the iso file and the folder set to play on your computer? Unless they play there correctly there is not much point in burning to a DVD.

I don't understand what this statement means: " I can burn 2-3 at a time, burning directly to disk before memory gives out so I'll do that for now."

[BrianCee]

I don't understand what this statement means: " I can burn 2-3 at a time, burning directly to disk before memory gives out so I'll do that for now."

Candy explained that earlier in this topic - and it is the fundamental problem she is having - after burning 2 or 3 discs when trying to burn a fourth she gets memory problems and cannot burn any more without shutting down and restarting - that is what we have been trying to circumnavigate - but without real success at the moment - we have suggested DVD folders and/or ISO files but for some undetermined reason this has not worked for Candy.

[canuck]

I don't understand what this statement means: " I can burn 2-3 at a time, burning directly to disk before memory gives out so I'll do that for now."

Candy explained that earlier in this topic - and it is the fundamental problem she is having - after burning 2 or 3 discs when trying to burn a fourth she gets memory problems and cannot burn any more without shutting down and restarting - that is what we have been trying to circumnavigate - but without real success at the moment - we have suggested DVD folders and/or ISO files but for some undetermined reason this has not worked for Candy.

Yes, I reread the earlier posts and see where she mentions the memory problem Since Candy is trying to make several DVDs in sequence would that mean that a "render" takes place for each new DVD? If yes then could it be that some of the memory does not get released after a render/burn is done and that the memory (real and virtual) gets all "used up"? A restart of VS would of course clear up the memory.

I could not find anything in Candys post where it states that the iso or folder sets played Ok via a software player but maybe I again missed that.