possible bug with adjustment layers

Jesus James · Post by **Jesus James** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:46 pm

It seems that Hue/Saturation/Lightness adjustment layers blending modes don't work as should. I'am trying to do this: http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2011/03 ... technique4

"Color Look With An Adjustment Layer

Go to the Layer menu, and then New Adjustment Layer → Hue/Saturation, and set the blending mode to “Soft Light” and check “Colorize.” Use the Hue, Saturation and Lightness sliders to control the color: for a cool look, for example, set the hue at 210, the saturation at 50 and the lightness at 10; for a warm look, set the hue at 30, the saturation at 30 and the lightness at 5."

Not really sure if this is a bug or feature, but on other photo editing softwares (eg. PhotoLine 17.5 & PSE 11 Trial) that technique works. My PaintShop version is 15.2.0.12.

Post by **LeviFiction** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:12 pm

This would be better in a separate thread first to determine if it's a bug or not.

PSP interprets HSL differently than PS interprets HSB, yes. They start at different locations on the color wheel for the Hue and PS uses percentages where as PSP uses full values 0-255.

HSL is not the same as RGB where the same numbers should give generally the same result. It's all based on the algorithm used and there are multiple ways to do it. PS and PSP choose different ones.

Try these values instead:

H:150 S:85 L:19 - Cooler look
H:20 S:47 L:11 - warmer look

Jesus James · Post by **Jesus James** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:56 pm

Thanks for your answer. I'm maybe missing something obvious, but I still can't get same kind of effect. Should "Colorize" and "Soft Light" blend mode set on with your values? Switching HSL adjustment layer blend modes changes nothing, is that normal?

(I don't mind if moderators move my question to separate thread.)

Post by **LeviFiction** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:05 pm

Okay....it's apparently best to ignore me at all costs.

While I'm right about HSL being different for selecting colors. The adjustment layers themselves seem to be very close to each other in terms of how they work. So ignore my previous advice.

Now, on a test image that I did, 1 in Photoshop and 1 in PSP, PSP's version seems to retain more of the original color, while the PS one appears bluer. But they both did the job, with very little obvious difference between them on the image that I did. So obviously my test isn't helpful.

Can you give us an example of how it's not working for you?

Jesus James · Post by **Jesus James** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:24 pm

I'll try to give tomorrow some example with screenshots.

photodrawken · Post by **photodrawken** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:12 pm

LeviFiction wrote:But they both did the job, with very little obvious difference between them on the image that I did.

Same here. PSCS2 and PSPX5 both altered the colour of the image as desired.

Jesus James · Post by **Jesus James** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:29 am

I just noticed that on 8 bit images everything works as should. Still seems that on 16 bit images HSL adjustment layer switching blending modes changes nothing. PhotoLine works with 16 bit images. Would someone please try with 16 bit image? I can show some example when I have more time, if still necessary.

photodrawken · Post by **photodrawken** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:25 am

Yes, with PSPX5, using a 16-bit/channel image, none of the adjustment layer blending modes makes any difference -- the image is simply colourized. Switching the image's colour depth to "RGB 8bits/channel" immediately applies the adjustment layer's colourization with a "Soft Light" blending mode (for example) as described.

Added:
It seems the H/S/L adjustment layer is the only one that does not respond to blending mode changes.

Jesus James · Post by **Jesus James** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:45 pm

Thanks again, especially testing out that all other adjustment layers works with 16-bit. Now it's time figure out best bug report sending method, do you have any suggestions? I would be very grateful if somebody with better English writing skills volunteers to send a bug report.

Jesus James · Post by **Jesus James** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:29 am

This is little bit ridiculous, but I can't find way to report obvious bug without paying to Corel? Free 90 days from registration support is over.

Jesus James · Post by **Jesus James** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:02 am

To moderators: maybe it's time to move this conversation back to "PSPx5 Bugs and Fixes." thread? Hopefully problem gets fixed someday.

Simone Corel UK · Post by **Simone Corel UK** » Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:23 am

Just picked up some information, 16-bit channel and Colorize wouldn't work. Can you please describe with short words in list form how to reproduce your bug, like

1. Open picture in 16-bit channel mode
2. Go to Adjust - Hue and Saturation - Colorize
3. Change setting to ...

Thanks!

Jesus James · Post by **Jesus James** » Tue Mar 26, 2013 5:29 am

Thank you for your contact. Colorize doesn't seem to be the problem. Here goes:

1. Open picture in 16-bit channel mode
2. Add new HSL adjustment layer:(from menu) Layers -> New Adjustment Layer -> Hue/Saturation/Lightness...
3. Switch Hue/Saturation/Lightness adjustment layer blending mode to (example) Soft Light. None of the layer blending mode changes make any difference. In 8-bit channel mode result is different and correct.

Hopefully you can understand my bad English.

Simone Corel UK · Post by **Simone Corel UK** » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:02 am

I have tested it and asked the development team if there are plans to support 16-bit in the future. They are looking into it.

Thanks for coming up with this topic.

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