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hannes_hab
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ram: 16 GB
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new PC

Post by hannes_hab »

I have some questions concerning new hardware - I am now still using Version 1.1.0.10 but maybe corel solves the problems with 1.1.0.30 and openCL will be a factor too (still hoping ASP developement will go on ...):

now 4 GB RAM - new PC: 16 GB - does it make sense to upgrade to 32 GB?
new PC: Intel Core i7-3770K - 4 x 3,5GHz - would 8 core AMD FX-8350 - 8 x 4,0GHz be the better choice ?
new PC: 256GB Samsung SSD 840 PRO SATA3
new PC: 1024MB Sapphire RadeonHD7750 ULTIMATE - HDMI/DVI-I/DP

WIN 7 64 bit and Linux (now WIN XP and Suse 11.4 64) new PC maybe Ubuntu - which Ubuntu would be the best choice?

Is it enough to put cache and catalog on the SSD (now cache & catalog on internal hard-disk - photos - raw and developed on a Qnap NAS) or should I give the raws to the SSD too and if they are done put them on the NAS or an external disk?
regards Hannes
austria

Nikon D7000 + D70, Nikon P6000, Nikon P330 (use P7800) PanasonicTZ100, Vuescan
bibble 4, bibble 5, ASP mostly on Ubuntu 14.04 ( sometimes Suse Linux 11.4 or WIN10)
afx
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Re: new PC

Post by afx »

hannes_hab wrote:now 4 GB RAM - new PC: 16 GB - does it make sense to upgrade to 32 GB?
Depends on what else you do wit the box....
new PC: Intel Core i7-3770K - 4 x 3,5GHz - would 8 core AMD FX-8350 - 8 x 4,0GHz be the better choice ?
I'd get an hex core I7...
new PC: 1024MB Sapphire RadeonHD7750 ULTIMATE - HDMI/DVI-I/DP
Stay away from gamer cards. Get a FirePro. At least the V4900, the smaller ones are not much cheaper but much slower.

I just got the V4900 yesterday. I get close to 30% speed increase in D700 conversions...
WIN 7 64 bit and Linux (now WIN XP and Suse 11.4 64) new PC maybe Ubuntu - which Ubuntu would be the best choice?
I favor Xubuntu. less bloat.
Is it enough to put cache and catalog on the SSD (now cache & catalog on internal hard-disk - photos - raw and developed on a Qnap NAS) or should I give the raws to the SSD too and if they are done put them on the NAS or an external disk?
I would think that is too much hassle... Depends very much on your workflow.
For me a NAS is only archive. I have all images locally on a harddrive.

cheers
afx
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hannes_hab
Posts: 300
Joined: Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:49 am
operating_system: Linux
System_Drive: Z
32bit or 64bit: 64 Bit
motherboard: ASUSTeK P8H77-I
processor: Intel Core i7 3770K 3.5 GHz x 8
ram: 16 GB
Video Card: AMD Radeon R7 200 Series
sound_card: Radeon HD 7700 7800 Sapphire
Hard_Drive_Capacity: 2x250GbSSD
Monitor/Display Make & Model: LG IPS 21:9 UltraWide 34UM95-P 3440x1440
Corel programs: AfterShotPro 1, 2, (3)
Location: Austria

Re: new PC

Post by hannes_hab »

thank you for your answer!
Depends on what else you do wit the box...
On Linux: AutopanoGiga, Scribus, PhotoZora etc but I think I will use the old PC too - so I may split the work ...
Stay away from gamer cards. Get a FirePro. At least the V4900, the smaller ones are not much cheaper but much slower.
I want a small and silent box - don't know if its possible to get it and to have the power too - for my ASP version (think I dont need a new camera soon) I thought graphic power is not very important?
I have all images locally on a harddrive.
So you have an SSD and everything is on that internal SSD afx?
For me the advantage of the NAS is that I can get access to my pictures from WIN, Linux and a second PC and laptop ...

Today one reason for working on linux is that working is (feels to be) faster than on Windows (ASP, Autopano, Scribus, printing - I use Qimage there but it is so slow ...) - I think with new hardware and WIN operating system - there will be a leap forward on WIN too - I like linux - but - especially if ASP will die - maybe switch to WIN and have less problems ...
regards Hannes
austria

Nikon D7000 + D70, Nikon P6000, Nikon P330 (use P7800) PanasonicTZ100, Vuescan
bibble 4, bibble 5, ASP mostly on Ubuntu 14.04 ( sometimes Suse Linux 11.4 or WIN10)
afx
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Re: new PC

Post by afx »

hannes_hab wrote:I want a small and silent box - don't know if its possible to get it and to have the power too - for my ASP version (think I dont need a new camera soon) I thought graphic power is not very important?
I was quite impressed how silent the fan in the FirePro is, especially after I heard it is noisy, I was prepared to replace it. So far it is not an issue (I usa a Lian Li case which is quite silent). But I only had it two days so far...
OpenCL is not really needed, though it can provide a performance boost depending on a lot of factors. On my Linux box (Quad i7) with an Nvidia card OpenCL actually makes AS slower. The Windows box (AMD quad Phenom) with the AMD gets a speed boost.
I have all images locally on a harddrive.
So you have an SSD and everything is on that internal SSD afx?
No, hard drive, not SSD....
For me the advantage of the NAS is that I can get access to my pictures from WIN, Linux and a second PC and laptop ...
Well, if you are happy with the speed...
Today one reason for working on linux is that working is (feels to be) faster than on Windows (ASP, Autopano, Scribus, printing - I use Qimage there but it is so slow ...) - I think with new hardware and WIN operating system - there will be a leap forward on WIN too - I like linux - but - especially if ASP will die - maybe switch to WIN and have less problems ...
The key reason for me to run a win box is availability of imaging software...

cheers
afx
Send bugs to the Monkey // AfterShot Kickstart Guide // sRGB clipping sucks and Adobe RGB is just as bad
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hannes_hab
Posts: 300
Joined: Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:49 am
operating_system: Linux
System_Drive: Z
32bit or 64bit: 64 Bit
motherboard: ASUSTeK P8H77-I
processor: Intel Core i7 3770K 3.5 GHz x 8
ram: 16 GB
Video Card: AMD Radeon R7 200 Series
sound_card: Radeon HD 7700 7800 Sapphire
Hard_Drive_Capacity: 2x250GbSSD
Monitor/Display Make & Model: LG IPS 21:9 UltraWide 34UM95-P 3440x1440
Corel programs: AfterShotPro 1, 2, (3)
Location: Austria

Re: new PC

Post by hannes_hab »

Well, if you are happy with the speed...
on linux: fast when starting work, slows down when editing layers (after NN) is applied, or having Scribus and Autopano open too
- so this seems to mean - more RAM
The key reason for me to run a win box is availability of imaging software...
so far I am happy on linux - can do everything I want here - in future (what will be with ASP?) maybe imatch 5 will be an option too...
regards Hannes
austria

Nikon D7000 + D70, Nikon P6000, Nikon P330 (use P7800) PanasonicTZ100, Vuescan
bibble 4, bibble 5, ASP mostly on Ubuntu 14.04 ( sometimes Suse Linux 11.4 or WIN10)
afx
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Location: München
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Re: new PC

Post by afx »

hannes_hab wrote:- so this seems to mean - more RAM
Sounds like it...
maybe imatch 5 will be an option too...
One of the key reasons I stay on win for my main platform.

cheers
afx
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ferdinand-paris
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Re: new PC

Post by ferdinand-paris »

afx wrote:
maybe imatch 5 will be an option too...
One of the key reasons I stay on win for my main platform.
A very good idea ...
F_P
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