Newbie editing question

[Fallinstarzz]

ok trying object extractor now.....Thank You....

[Fallinstarzz]

Ok that tool is difficult it will take me forever to whiteout images with that...

How about this if I wanted to just add a blank white rectangle on that field so I can just put my text on that ...then I can just add a tiny clipart football to that under the text???

[carolynr61]

After you have promoted the layer to raster and upped the tolerance, maybe 20, to select all the white that you have showing, then press Invert (located under the selections tab). This inverts your selection so only the football is selected, choose copy from the menu, open your field image, press "paste as a new layer" and that will paste the football into the other image. The main thing is to have a little feather which will make your selection a little smoother. Increasing the tolerance selects more of the pixels that match the white - this way you get a nice smooth football edge.

I realized I made some errors here and have edited this post.

Have you tried my corrected suggestion? It's not really difficult to select and paste. (earlier I was trying to go from memory and I think selecting and pasting might be what you need to do. Of course you could still do the white rectangle and text, make a selection on a new layer and fill with white.

[hartpaul]

OK Managed to find your two images on Google Images.
1. Load the two images and zoom them down to a size where you can see both on the working space area.(If you cannot see both images go to Windows > and make sure Tabbed Documents is unticked) Make sure your Football image is promoted to a raster layer. (Layers > Promote Background Layer)
2. Select your magic wand tool and apply with settings shown :

3. As you can see with a low tolerance setting the white bands on the football are not selected, but there is a darker area outside bottom that is missed. So repeat the magic wand tool in those areas until you get most of it.


4. With the white area all selected hit the Delete key on your keyboard and the white is replaced with transparency.

5. Because the football image (1697 x 1131) is larger than the field (1166 x 761) you may have to rezize the football smaller:

6. Go to your layers palette (F6 if not showing) and left click drag the thumbnail of the football over on top of the playing field and drop:

7. This gives you the football on a second layer on top of the field. You can use the Pick tool and from a diagonal corner drag in or out to change the size and from the centre left click drag to move to correct position:

8. You can then if you like place a drop shadow (Effects > 3D Effects > Drop Shadow) and lastly merge the image Layers >Merge All to get your final image:

[Fallinstarzz]

Wow Hart Ty for all that work & detail!!! That is exactly what I needed to see the steps...got both to work, Carolyns way & yours...I cant Thank you both enough for all your help!!!! My son luvs his invites. From now on I am going to make my own but need to practice & play around more with the program. I am sure I will be asking lots more questions!!!


Always before saving hit merge all??? Is this even if I am saving it to edit at a later time or to change names & dates on the invite later on ??? Or do I just do merge all when I save the final into a jpeg for printing??

[carolynr61]

I wouldn't merge if you intend to still edit the image. You would save it as a psp image so the layers stay intact and then save it as a jpg or any other format (you'll always have your psp image to edit) for printing, sending it, or sharing it on the web.

Glad to help.

[vee]

I wouldn't merge if you intend to still edit the image. You would save it as a psp image so the layers stay intact and then save it as a jpg or any other format (you'll always have your psp image to edit) for printing, sending it, or sharing it on the web.

Glad to help.

Hope you don`t mind me adding something I do with layers when I have saved them in a psp format ,
I resize them them to about 150 x 150 pixels then click save ,
then when I need to reuse them I can resize them to the proper size ,
that way less memory is used in my layers folder .

[hartpaul]

As I said always merge to get your FINAL image (that implies that you do not want to make any further changes) . You must do this if you want to email, print send to someone else that does not have a program that can read psp files.
As someone has also mentioned before your final merge you may also save it as a psp file (if you may want to do a re-edit at a later date) and also save as your jpg for mailing printing etc.

[carolynr61]

I wouldn't merge if you intend to still edit the image. You would save it as a psp image so the layers stay intact and then save it as a jpg or any other format (you'll always have your psp image to edit) for printing, sending it, or sharing it on the web.

Glad to help.

Hope you don`t mind me adding something I do with layers when I have saved them in a psp format ,
I resize them them to about 150 x 150 pixels then click save ,
then when I need to reuse them I can resize them to the proper size ,
that way less memory is used in my layers folder .

I don't mind you mentioning this, but have you found the image once resized to a smaller image, then again resized to a larger size retains the same clarity? I thought that resizing and then sizing up would result in a degradation of the image, especially if done repeatedly. That's just what I thought though, have you found otherwise?

[LeviFiction]

Raster images will degrade. Never resize smaller than you intend to use. You want to avoid updscaling (making it larger) as much as possible.

[vee]

I wouldn't merge if you intend to still edit the image. You would save it as a psp image so the layers stay intact and then save it as a jpg or any other format (you'll always have your psp image to edit) for printing, sending it, or sharing it on the web.

Glad to help.

Hope you don`t mind me adding something I do with layers when I have saved them in a psp format ,
I resize them them to about 150 x 150 pixels then click save ,
then when I need to reuse them I can resize them to the proper size ,
that way less memory is used in my layers folder .

I don't mind you mentioning this, but have you found the image once resized to a smaller image, then again resized to a larger size retains the same clarity? I thought that resizing and then sizing up would result in a degradation of the image, especially if done repeatedly. That's just what I thought though, have you found otherwise?

I have never found any problems using this way , with layers ..but saying that I don`t resize any lower than 150 pixels,I have tried at 100 pixels , that is when I had a problem bringing it back to the original size and the clarity etc changed .
With every computer and programme it is trial and error until you find something that suits you the programme and the computers.

[hartpaul]

Hi Vee,
Just tested your method where you suggested reducing size to 150 pixels and saving as a psp file.
This does not work with rasters (pictures) as resizing up (from 150 to 2000 pixels) produces a hopeless blur.
However it does work with vectors as you are saving a set of instructions on how to draw a shape along with color information and you can resize them without loss.
Thanks for a great new tip.

Edit: Further testing and looking at sizes a 4 layer vector image with preset shapes on each layer at 2000 x 1400 pixels saved as 156 Kb (same as a single small raster image) while reducing it to 150 pixels on the longest side saved as 36 Kb about 1/5 of the size (getting to the size of a thumbnail) . But talking in Kb here and less than the size of a raster image of the same dimensions. I doubt the extra steps in resizing and upsizing are really worth the saving in disk space on a 1 Tb disk.

[vee]

Hi Vee,
Just tested your method where you suggested reducing size to 150 pixels and saving as a psp file.
This does not work with rasters (pictures) as resizing up (from 150 to 2000 pixels) produces a hopeless blur.
However it does work with vectors as you are saving a set of instructions on how to draw a shape along with color information and you can resize them without loss.
Thanks for a great new tip.

Edit: Further testing and looking at sizes a 4 layer vector image with preset shapes on each layer at 2000 x 1400 pixels saved as 156 Kb (same as a single small raster image) while reducing it to 150 pixels on the longest side saved as 36 Kb about 1/5 of the size (getting to the size of a thumbnail) . But talking in Kb here and less than the size of a raster image of the same dimensions. I doubt the extra steps in resizing and upsizing are really worth the saving in disk space on a 1 Tb disk.

Hi ,
Glad you found it helpful , especially with vectors .

My raster images are never resized back up to anymore than 750 or 850 pixels ,
so I don`t notice any blurring , or maybe I have just been lucky with them .

I find this method very helpful if my Ram memory is running low , which it does sometimes ,
more often when working with about 90 to 100 odd layers ,
these I merge down to about 10 layers before saving the final PSP image , any not used gets deleted .
But my final image is always saved in JPG .

[roscoep54]

I found this helpful. Thank you.
Elaine