Way to Speed up or Load Icons in Background?

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Way to Speed up or Load Icons in Background?

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I use X5 Pro. I have some projects with lots of video clips. When I load a project, the project itself loads fairly quickly (as indicated with the green progress bar), but the Icons in the Project area then begin loading ONLY for the page being displayed. This applies for both the storyboard and timeline view. This is very frustrating, especially on the storyboard view, because every time I scroll a page I have to wait for the icons to load. With a lot of pages, it takes a very long time to get everything loaded.

Is there a way to either speed up the loading process or have it load in the background so that I can leave the computer and come back later to find the icons all loaded, rather than having to sit there and scroll through one page at a time waiting for each page to load until all pages are loaded?

Any help here is greatly appreciated.
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What icons are you talking about? I don't quite understand what you are describing.
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do you mean thumbnails and libraries - like canuck I do not know what you mean - what pages are you scrolling through ?
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Sorry, I meant the thumbnails. It is the small pictures of the videos that are displayed in the project.
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so what are these pages their loading in to ?
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edrizz wrote:Sorry, I meant the thumbnails. It is the small pictures of the videos that are displayed in the project.
I still do not understand what you are seeing or where your problem is. What are these pages you are referring to?
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II am referring to the video clip pictures that show on the video track in a project (I think it just shows the first frame from the video clip). When you start a new project in Corel and if you select "Storybook View", it says "Drag Video Clips Here". You drag video clips from the library to the video track to add them to your project. As you add multilple video clips to the project, clips fill up left to right, then top to bottom. Only so may rows fit on a screen (on my computer, I get 3 rows). Once the three rows are filled up with video clips, you must the scroll bar to get to see addional rows. When I say to get to the next page, I am referring to scrolling to the next 3 rows of video clips in the project.
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Ok, I understand now what you mean by pages, I have just never heard of pages in that context.

If you have that many "pages", how many video clip are in your project, how long in time?
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I have about 154 clips in a 38 minute project. With 10 clips per row, this takes just over 15 rows. Not really that large. I noticed that it takes about 1 second to populate each clip thumbnail (these are AVCHD files) when opening a project. Again, this would not be so bad if it kept on pouplating all of the thumbnails through the end of the project, but it only loads the thumbnail images for the rows that fit on the current screen. To get more to populate, I must keep scrolling down row by rowto the very end of the project-- very tedious and time consuming.
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Any particular reason why you use storyboard view as opposed to timeline view?
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No real reason I use the Story book view other than I like it better. If I use the timeline view, the software works the same way, as it still only populates the thumbnails for the clips being discplayed. The thumbnails images display much narrower on the timeline view and so each image populates a little faster, but you still have to keep scrolling out to the right and wait for each clip to load. I guess that I need to add this to improvements for the next version thread.
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edrizz wrote:No real reason I use the Story book view other than I like it better. If I use the timeline view, the software works the same way, as it still only populates the thumbnails for the clips being discplayed. The thumbnails images display much narrower on the timeline view and so each image populates a little faster, but you still have to keep scrolling out to the right and wait for each clip to load. I guess that I need to add this to improvements for the next version thread.
I cannot duplicate what you are seeing.
I created a project containing 256 clips (30 secs to several minutes for each clips) totaling 61 minutes in length. Saved the project and reloaded. The load as indicated by the progress bar showed the loading to take about 30 secs and all the thumbnails appeared "Immediately". I had 4 "pages" of thumbnails showing and when scrolling there is no real delay in showing the images. So I don't see that any improvement is required.

I will add that all my clips are DV-avi so that AVCHD clips will propably take longer to load. Of course none of the clips actually get loaded into memory but only thumbnail images for the storyline or timeline.
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Hi edrizz

Yes a little annoying, I have just started a new project containing 186 Mov HD files.

First time I have used HD video which is a little demanding on the PC, it takes a long time to load the thumbnails compared to using DV-AVI types.
I too are working in storyboard and do have to scroll to allow the lines to populate the board.

OK try this
First open your project in Timeline view
Detach the Timeline panel view by dragging the top line immediately above the storyboard/timeline icons, the timelines will float over the main panel.
You can now maximise the view to fill the screen Use the square top right, same as any window max / min symbols.

Now select Storyboard
I now see 7 lines after these have loaded Click below the scroll bar (2 or 3 times) to allow other clips to populate the panel.
Unfortunately you have to allow every clip to show, dragging the slider to the bottom will simply miss clips.

Once they are all showing press F7 to reset the panel to normal view.

I do not have a solution to speed this up, opening the project a second time loads instantly as though the info is stored in the background, till you close the program that is.
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another option is to move your cursor into the black line just above the timeline/storyboard until the cursor changes to two parallel lines with up and down arrows - now left click and slowly move downwards to squash the timeline - suddenly all the storyboard icons jump into one continuous line from left to right just as though it was a timeline but with storyboard icons - now you can just scroll along the timeline but viewing single images for each clip instead of the whole clip.

i gave up using the story board view years ago and experimenting with it now has reminded me why I hate it - how do you put titles over your video in storyboard view and how do you switch to the overlay track when you want a cutaway.
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BrianCee wrote:another option is to move your cursor into the black line just above the timeline/storyboard until the cursor changes to two parallel lines with up and down arrows - now left click and slowly move downwards to squash the timeline - suddenly all the storyboard icons jump into one continuous line from left to right just as though it was a timeline but with storyboard icons - now you can just scroll along the timeline but viewing single images for each clip instead of the whole clip.

i gave up using the story board view years ago and experimenting with it now has reminded me why I hate it - how do you put titles over your video in storyboard view and how do you switch to the overlay track when you want a cutaway.
Lata and BrianCee,

Thanks for the workaround tips. The one that worked the best for me was to move the cursor into the black area to get two paralell line, then left click and drag upward so that 7 rows of images fit on a single screen. Still have to scroll down to get all to load, but now loads the 7 displayed rows rather than just three at at time. For future versions, possibly 64 bit processing will help? I do think it is the larger HD files that cause the problem.
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